Re: "There was no rage or anything. He was just like a robot stabbing the guy."
- From: "Wayne Dobson" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:38:01 +0100
Badger North wrote:
On Aug 6, 1:51 pm, "Wayne Dobson" <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Badger North wrote:
Nope, no warning. The victim was asleep, and first thing anybody
knew of a situation was when he started screaming. No warning, no
time to plan, no time to place oneself, no time to arm oneself if a
weapon was not already at hand.
I'm not convinced. I've witnessed plenty of occasions of people
pretending not to notice something, because they didn't have a clue
how to deal with it, then claim not to have seen it.
Well, nobody has mentioned anything as of yet. I would've figured by
now that *someone* would've mentioned "yeah, he was being really
furtive and talking to himself" or whatever. But... nothing.
I don't believe that he gave off no signs of being strange. Even if it's
not obvious, it's my experience that dangerous people always give off
something. Those sorts of people get my attention, while everyone else is
trying to ignore them.
There's a reason why the Dog Brothers empty-hand vs. weapon
curriculum is called "Die Less Often".
Not, "Die Overwhelmingly Often"? Strange.
Yeah, strange. I think the odds go sour when you're dealing with an
armed maniac in an enclosed space.
Yeah, it makes running away more of a challenge.
You mean if I'd done anything approaching realistic training, I'd
know why your training sucks? I'm not trying to be a smart-arse, but
any training that left me with such poor odds, I wouldn't bother
with. I'm beginning to understand why you guys simply advise people
to get a gun.
It's the nature of the weapon - the knife needs no body commitment, no
firm base to push off of, has no minimum striking range and damages
whatever it hits.
*Sound of scribbling*
I would be very interested in seeing what you
consider effective training, since you consider mine to be of such
poor quality.
I don't know how you train. I just know that your attitude could do with
some adjustment.
The line that Chas occasionally quotes
from his teachers is both good and germane: "if your opponent has a
knife, take 5 years off your training. If he's had the first lesson
on using the knife, take 10 years off your training."
I hope you are aware that that statement is figurative.
But of course. Still has merit - the guy on the bus would've been an
absolute horror show for anyone to try and stop.
That's what I'm talking about. That sort of scenario is plenty scary
enough, all by itself, without you adding to it with as many pessimistic
predictions as you're able to muster.
If your opponent has a knife, and is totally willing to kill with
it, and has no fear for his own life, and is in a space-restricted
environment, that's an effective counter to years and years of
training.
Not if I kill him.
Yeah, and there's the crux of the matter: just how are you going to
kill him before he does that to you?
That's a very vague question. What precisely do you feel makes it
impossible for me to achieve that?
--
Wayne Dobson
AKA "Dobbie The House Elf"
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