Re: Oil Peak, read and weep (seriously) - for Don Geddis

This is true. At what point one makes the transition is indeed the issue.
Chances are, though,  if you're in the midst of it, it's too late.

I think you need to wait until the end of it. It's a dice roll
otherwise. Till things settle down, you can't really settle down.

The alternative put forth by the others here posits an ORDERLY
complete breakdown of society. That is absurd, ab initio.

I'm not sure if you really understand 'remote'. Trav, we have R-E-M-O-T-E
like nothing you've ever seen.

Your country is a dicey proposition to begin with, but yes I do
understand what you mean by remote. I've been places that were only
serviceable by aircraft through a grass airstrip before. True
wilderness. We have some of that here, albeit not as many miles from
populations.

If that is how remote you are, then good. If you're self-sufficient
in a TRUE wildnerness area, your only fear is contamination. I hope
that all these wannabe mad maxers know how to set broken bones and
remedy infections for when their precious kids fall out of a tree or
get bitten by a snake.

Uh? How does moving to a worse scenario work for you? Any historical
precedents for this? I don't recall residents from the West Germany flooding
into East Germany to savour the delights of a collapsed economy, do you?


West Germany was not in a state of collapse. Why would they have?

You maintain your remoteness by staying put. It's costly for any government
(rabid or not) and especially a resource-depleted one, to send militia on a
random hunts into the wilderness to find one or two self-sufficient persons.
There's no economic payback, it's an energy loser, they won't do it. If the
US can't find OBL with every resource available, what chance finding Joe Six
Pack in the Kimberley, the Pilbara or the Porongurup?

Do you actually live in the wilderness or do you just dream about it?
Everyone I know, including those here, who is "building their little
farm" and ***, is road-accessible. They are not actually that
remote.

It would not require a compulsion to produce upon pain of death.
Again, review post-Bolshevik rule and watch Zhivago. Once they put
the sticker on your house, if they catch you in it, you're dead.
That's a hell of a deterrent.

We've got unanimity among the people here predicting a fascist
government yet they cannot seem to grasp the necessary implications
thereof. It's clear that they simply haven't thought through what
they are saying. What I believe is that they play pretend. They
think things will get bad, but not TOO bad. These are conceits people
use as devices to hide from scary truths.

I'm not so sure either, but a resourceful fellow like you should be able to
ditch the plane in the middle of the Pacific, get picked up by pirates,
dis-arm and slaughter them all, use their bodies as bait for your fishing,
then rescue a dozen ship-wrecked, bikini-clad Brazilian chicks who
appreciatively cook, clean and 'provide' for you for the remainder of your
journey.

Hell, that's as plausible as Renli being a genius, so I'll run with
that.

That completes the trifecta - you're in.

GDS

I'm also very useful in that I am an engineer and have a lot of
mechanical and problem-solving skill. My dad was a civil engineer for
35 years; I may pack him in the bag to build things like sewage and
whatnot. I was trying to acquire his textbooks but he says he got rid
of them. Moron. It would be useful to acquire some kind of digital
resource base of civil engineering information as well as the tools
necessary to implement the projects...levels, etc.

Just the ability to provide water or sewage where there is not such a
resource is considerably more useful than how many guns you
have...supposing you were TRULY remote.

Trav
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