Re: Well, rightards? Was: Placebo effect was: kenoki footpads

Badger North wrote:
On Jun 12, 7:41 pm, "Wayne Dobson" <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Without the treatment that western medicine provided they would
have been dead long ago.

How the *** do you know this?

Becuase I am an old dude and I was around when the treatments were
not there. You can also look at stats. Aint hard.

Let's see the stats.

I'm thinking a google search on polio fatalities would be a good place
to start.

And here's an interesting read on cancer stats:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/06/support_cancer_research_now.php#more

[ So last week, I met Beth Villavicencio, who told me she was a pediatric
oncologist. The first words out of my mouth were something like, "That's
funny - you don't look depressed or suicidal." ]

Hmm... The state of conventional cancer treatments, as viewed from the
inside.

"She wasn't miserable, because people bring dying kids to her and she saves
them - she has a job where she is literally taking people who would be dying
otherwise and she makes them healthy again with excellent success rates,
which sounds like something that would make anyone cheerful."

He sounds as surprised at that as I am.

"How does she do that? With science. She sent me a whole stack of references
on the amazing progress that has been made over the last several
decades,..."

Amazing as in the patients apparently aren't dying like flies. Hmmm...
Well, that's something, I suppose.

" ...thanks to clinical trials and evidence based medicine."

What was the medicine based on, before?

"Here's one picture that says it all."

--- Squiggly chart ---

Really? Do those squiggles really say it all, because it doesn't, for me.
But we are conditioned to believe that if we don't understand some confusing
gobbley-gook, it's because we're not intelligent enough. How many people
looked at that chart and found that it said it all? Because I would like
one of those people to explain to me what it means.

"Those are survivorship curves for acute lymphoblastic leukemia. When the
lines are plunging downwards, that means kids are dying like flies;"

As is usually the case.

"...when the lines flatten out horizontally, that means no kids are dying."

Because 90% of them are already dead. Wonderful.

I see that your article asks for the government to be petitioned to provide
more money for cancer research. Cancer research is one of the most evil and
perverse rackets in western medicine. It's funded by charitable donations,
given to cronies of the pharmacuetical industry to research ever more
expensive and convoluted measures to treat a common condition. The
pharmacuetical industry already makes obscene amounts of profits on the back
of their bogus treatments, yet they ask for charitable donations on top of
this, along with petitioning for increasing government handouts. Obscene!
Why don't they instead, use the reserves of cash they have piled up?

Account of one of Beth's patients:

"For eight months, she had chemo several times a week: pills, an IV drip,
and injections into muscle tissue and spinal fluid. Along with her mother
and infant sister-born four months after Breanna's diagnosis-she stayed at
the nearby Ronald McDonald House at no cost, avoiding a two-hour commute
from home.

Luckily, Breanna was a "rapid responder." Just two weeks into her
chemotherapy, the leukemia cells had plummeted from 70 percent of her bone
marrow cells to 3 percent, and by the fourth week, no cancerous cells could
be found."

Notice the first word of the second paragraph: "luckily". It's fucking
witchcraft!

"But the war wasn't over. Breanna had to return regularly for more than two
years of chemotherapy that dulled her memory and weakened her body."

Let me see if I've got this straight, they poisened her 'till she got
better, right?

"She had six transfusions because her platelet and red blood cell counts
took a dive. She had blood clots and bloodstream infections. The steroids in
her chemotherapy regimen ate away at the cartilage in her joints."

What an horrendous account! I'll stick to eating my greens, than you very
much.

--
Wayne Dobson
AKA "Dobbie The House Elf"


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