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How about extended families who took care of the old? Who were more
respected than nowadays for experience and wisdom. How about less
advanced medical sciences so a lot fewer old folks lived into the
late 80s, 90s or full centuries?

Medical science has advanced into an imcreasingly entrenched
profiteering racket. It has done little to nothing to either extend
life or improve health, that I know of.


How do you account for the increased life expectancy between 1808 and
2008? Just magic? <G> Take care

Improved sanitation.

And that has nothing to do with modern medicine?

Yes, that has nothing to do with modern medicine. If it did, you
probably wouldn't hear of resistant strains of bacteria living in
hospitals. What do you suppose that is down to?

Germ theory of disease?

It's an outworn postulate, contraindicated by evidence and is
insufficient to explain why diseases occur.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease]

Criticism

"Though no one seriously disputes the germ theory outright, there are
some who believe that it is incomplete as a theory of disease. The most
commonly cited reason is the clinical inaccuracy of Koch's third
postulate, which states that any susceptible animal infected with a
pathogenic microbe should express symptoms. Koch himself later recanted
this postulate after evidence showed asymptomatic carriers of typhoid
and cholera.

Others' theories of disease accentuate the host resistance factors,
arguing that germs are too ubiquitous to be viewed as the "cause" of
disease, even if they are a necessary component of disease."

Draining swamps and using sleeping nets and pesticides to combat
malaria, one of the world's great killers?

Barring the use of pesticides, what's that got to do with medicine?

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria]

Distribution and impact

"Malaria causes about 400-900 million cases of fever and approximately
one to three million deaths annually..."

At a conservative estimate, that's 133 to 1 odds of dying from it, if
you do get it.

"The vast majority of cases occur in children under the age of 5
years;[17] pregnant women are also especially vulnerable."

According to that, it's the vulnerable that are at vastly greater risk
than the rest of the population. This flies in the face of "The Germ
Theory of Disease."

"Despite efforts to reduce transmission and increase treatment, there
has been little change in which areas are at risk of this disease since
1992."

Not a very glowing endorsement of modern medicine.

I dispute the statement that medical science has done little to extend
life or improve health.

Fine. Who's life has it extended and who's health has it improved?

I would be dead right now were it not for diagnostic tools that
detected the 90% blockage in my left anterior descending coronary
artery. To say nothing about the dedicated primary care physician who
insisted I have the tests done in the first place and the skilled
cardiologist who snaked an istrument (guided by sophisticated imaging
tools) up my femoral artery to put the stent into my heart. Modern
medicince has done lots to help me and millions of others. Take care

I'm not arguing against improved surgical procedures, which has merit.
I'm arguing against the thoroughly corrupt and ineffective system of
Western Medicine. Were you taking medicine for high blood pressure
prior to surgery?

For a few weeks before the procedure. The cardiologist put me on a beta
blocker diuretic combination as well as an anticoagulant to stave off
problems until the stent was put in. I stopped the blood thinner but
still take the Ziac beta blocker. Take care

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_blockers]

"... there is increasing evidence that the most frequently used
beta-blockers especially in combination with thiazide-type diuretics carry
an unacceptable risk of provoking type 2 diabetes."

Once you step unto the carousel, you're never supposed to step off.

Also interesting to note is that another of the adverse drug reactions
associated with beta blockers is heart failure, which if it did occur,
would naturally be put down to the condition which it was intended to
stave off: heart failure. The whole thing is a nonsense, as far as I am
concerned.

Cardiac arrhythmia, high blood pressure and blood clots are all both
caused and cured by diet. There are many good books which detail the link
between health and diet, if the interest takes you. I wish you well.


Thanks... since I already had diabetes type 2 before getting the heart
condition I doubt the beta blocker brought it on. My doctor says the
diabetes probably caused the heart blockage. I am interested in diet and
health. I am trying to lose weight hopefully I can minimize the diabetes by
getting to a good weight. It is hard as some of the diabetes drugs cause
weight gain. I agree it is a merry-go-round.

My employer is having a weight loss challenge company wide. My three man
team has lost 79# in two months some 8% of our original weight and ae in
first place among some 60 teams. I have only lost 19 pounds so far. I need
to lose a further 50 or so to get to a normal weight. I am astounded I got
this way as I weighed 150# at age 20. 6ft high. and had the fast metabolism
I could eat anything and not gain. Which I unfortunately did and age caught
up with me and I gained. Still I am plowing away going to the gym daily
burning a minimum of 500 cal up to 1000 cals on the elliptical. rowing
machine, stairmaster, or treadmill. I'm doing Nutrisystem which is about
1500 cal diet per day. Thanks for the encouragement. Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore
"The belief in a supernatural
source of evil is not necessary;
men alone are quite capable
of every wickedness."
Joseph Conrad


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