Re: The Coming Greater Depression

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:09:38 +0000, Greendistantstar wrote:

Good God! Do you actually *read* the stuff that you write? Capitalism
is *NOT* "dependent on growth" nor on shrinkage, nor any other economic
upturn/downturn phenomenon. Capitalism is merely the structuring of an
economy with private (instead of "public" or "government") ownership of
production usually for the purpose of "mutually advantageous" exchange
of goods and services where the "price" of goods and services are
determined by a "free market" economy rather than by a Command Economy.

And there's other alternatives.

Sure. But hal's statement is still wrong.


"Grow" is irrelevant to the functioning of Capitalism. The defining
characteristic is "mutually advantageous exchange."

It's relevant insofar as the competitve nature of capitalist economies see growth
as a desireable outcome of their workings.

Nah. Pretty much *ALL* economic systems find growth "desirable";
Socialism, Communism, etc. A bigger pie means larger slices to spread
around "equitably" "to each according to their need" as it were. It's
hardly a defining/differentiating characteristic of Capitalism any more
than "has two eyes" is a differentiating characteristic of humans (yeah,
humans and every other frick'n vertebrate on God's Green Earth).


Since the dawn of industrializtion, this has been an achievable but there is a
limit to that, and that limit is approaching.

Sure, no one is arguing that unlimited growth is attainable forever and
ever, only when and where that limit may be.


Now, as for your bizarre claim that "Sustainable agriculture is a strictly
left-wing phenomenon." This is, again, BS. I'd ask you to support the
claim, but I know you'd just spout some non seq. garbage and declare that
you've "won." :P

The concepts of 'left' and 'right' seem almost incongruous here.

Naturally. It's nothing more than hal's typical "Right is the source of
all evil and Left is the source of all good" BS.


I bought a copy of 'The End of Suburbia' DVD yesterday. Highly recommended.

I'll keep my eyes open for it.

Peace favor your sword (IH),

Kirk

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