Re: Bush proposes Palestinian state


<travisgod@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I see you are still living in your fantasy world. It is more like 20%
fanatical. You see if stretches all over the globe. They have no problem
with recruiting for Jihad. That is 200 million fanatics; and yes the other

Listen, idiot.

Oh boy now I have a genuis who has read nothing telling me how things are.
Another trip into fantasy land.

If islam is THAT successful, then we're doomed. We CANNOT compete
with a movement that has such an EASY time recruiting new members
faster than we could POSSIBLY kill them even if we COULD sustain this
war.

That may be. We may be just as doomed as Constaninople was.That empire
lasted 800 years and fell to Islam. There is no gurantee that the same will
not happen to us. What makes you think you are impervious to attack. Your
full belly and complacency? Try - " Globalized Islam the search for a new
ummah." by Oliver Roy. Our only hope is to use tactics that work against
them. Take people, who failed as suicide bombers, and find out why. Use
those doubts against those would become suicide bombers.
Right now they have no trouble recruiting sucide bombers in Islam. Have you
even noticed that, Mr. Genius? Have you noticed they are being used more
frequently in Afghanistan. Did you know they erect huge bill boards for
matyred suicide bombers in southern Lebanon. They idolize them. Do you
understand the culture of martydom. Do you understand you are dealing with a
culture closed to the outside. Try " Inside HAMAS - the untold story of the
militant Islamic movement" by Zaki Chelab. Fascinating book written by a man
who personally knew and knows the leaders of Hamas. You might get a shock to
find out they are very well educated and many were educated in the US.

But, that's not really the case.

Oh boy now the genius is looking into his crystal ball and playing
Nostradamus. It is the case. You are just as stubborn about maintaining your
ignorance as Hal is.
That is why I am not impressed by your self annointed genius. You try to
substitute your so called intelligence for both wisdom and knowledge.

One should ask the question as to how all these new mosques get
built...how the front continues to push forward. Where does the
money come from to do all that? To prosletyze and evangelize? To
build ornate mosques and recruit imams?

Oil, zakat, donations, Arab governments, mineral wealth, heroin ( or I
should say western dope addicts that you cry croc tears over), organized
crime, donations from inidividuals in other countries that think the US is
responible for everything bad that happens to them including their jock itch
and plantar warts. They are very suceptible to propaganda. Have you never
listened to Tarik Ali talk or read his book on cultures? Ali a
condescending darling of liberal assholes, who blames everything on the US.
Do you not think that movies like "Rendition" and "Redacted" play well on Al
Jazeera and Chomsky's books sell well overseas.
Are you really that complacent? Like a cow chewing it cud.
AK 47's are cheap, durable, reliable, maintenance free, inaccurate bullet
hoses impervious to all envronments. Perfect for poorly trained fanatics
Does not take a great deal of money to buy them. Try the book "AK 47" by
Larry Kramer.

Somebody should check into that...maybe follow the money back to its
source...Caesar's unto Caesar, indeed.

" Global Financial Warriors" by John B Taylor.


Moslems are the problem. They are scared to death of the fanatics and are
not going to lift a finger to stop them. They know they will be left alone
if they toe the line. So they toe the line. Try reading some of the Arab
speakers instead of making up *** that suits your fantasy.

Again, one must wonder how the jihadists are so miraculously well-
funded, you know, for a bunch of middle-age mentality whackjobs...

That is not hard to figure out. a few nano seconds of thought should tell
you. I already did tell you a lot. A visit to a well stocked bookstore or
libary will tell you more. Hell there were numerous so called Moslem
charities operating in the US before 9-11 when geniuses like you were
snoozing ( try the book "American Jihad - the Terrorists Among us."). Not to
mention criminal rings. One bunch sent millions back to Hezbollah by black
marketing cigarettes in the US ( "Lightning Out of Lebanon" a book). Another
bunch extorted money from Moslem immigrants in Canada to support terrorism
( "Cold Terror - How Canada Nutures and Exports Terrorism Worldwide" book
written by a Canadian journalist named Stephen Bell). The same immigrants
who fled to Canada to escape those fanatics. Then of course their is your
buddy Nemo. He is stupid enough to send donations to them.

Another fantasy of yours. It does not go away because you want it to and
it
is certainly not going away. Pulling the troops back merely encourages
them
moron. They trumpet it as a victory and use it to recruit more Jihadist.
We
have been listening to morons like you and running for years and that has
done nothing but fan the flames. There is no " peace for our time."

It doesn't matter what we do when we are PAYING THE ENEMY you fucking
IDIOT. WE are buying the enemy his weapons, you FUCKTARD.

Oh really nit wit and who are we paying? Do we send checks to Osama. Are you
referring to Pakistan? Have you read anything on Pakistan. I think not. You
really do not understan much and your crowing is rather silly.

We gave Israel how many billion last year to fight a war against the
Hezbollah who fired rockets and missiles and guns. Where did
Hezbollah get its money? Oh...from Iran. Where does IRAN GET ITS
MONEY?

It gets its weapons from Russia. It sells oil to let me see - Europe and
Japan and any country that will buy it. Where do we sell our Alaskan oil?
Did you know we sell Alaskan oil? . Do we get our oil from the middle east
or do we get it from other countries? Maybe Canada, Mexico, Venezuela? Why
dont you look up where most of the US oil comes from? Pop your own bubble,
Mr Expert. Look it up yourself. How much oil does come into the US from the
middle east? Give me facts. Pop your bubble.
Try convincing the liberals to drill in Anwar. Did you know China will soon
drill off the Florida coast. I am not the one you have to convince. You are
preaching your ranting to the choir on this one.

The 911 attackers were primarily from KSA...KSA pays for religious
schools ALL OVER THE WORLD, including one in Fairfax County that was
just accused of using antisemitic literature (among other
things)...how does KSA AFFORD all this? Where does THEIR MONEY COME
FROM, HERBORT?

Tell me something I do not know. I am far ahead of you. All you can do is
make stupid statements. Tell me would KSA sell oil to China? Tell me a
country that does not need oil right now genius? Do you really think that we
are the only oil consumer in the world? Tell me did we give arms to the
USSR during WW II? Did not Mr. Krushev say he would hang us with the rope we
would sell him? Did he hang us? This story of yours has been played before.
It makes me yawn. You see you try to reduce things to a very simple formula
and that will not work. It never has. You are dealing with a far more
complex problem than you can grasp. It is beyond your self annointed genius
and far above your silly ranting.
Tell me where does KSA sell most of its oil? Do you even know? Give me the
breakdown on it. Can you do that or can you just rant?

You talk all the fkin time about how DEEP you think your reading
material is, but it's a SPIT PUDDLE.

Compared to yours it is an ocean. You revel in your ignorance and prove it
with your silly ranting. You would do well to do some reading.
I am totally unimpressed. You are a silly zero who babbles about things you
know very little about. You see I walk every day with a chemical engineer
who is an expert on energy. I have run some of your tripe by him. He thinks
you are a joke. So Mr. Genius I suggest you stick to the law and leave other
subjects to others you have truly studied the problems.

The money that is building mosques, buying Katyushas, recruiting
jihadists TO DESTROY US is coming FROM US.

Not really. It is coming from many places. Many other countries included.
You are like all the other nit wits that want to believe the worst is us.
That is because we have made mistakes. But all countries have. You seem to
focus on our losses and not our sucesses. That is why you will lose.You
dwell on failure. Your formula is far too simple. But then I expect only
simple formulas from you. Complex issues elude you.

You CANNOT win a war when you are FUNDING your enemy.

It is not a war of funds. And contrary to popular belief, or I should say
yours, we are not funding them. It is partly a relgious war and partly a
cultural war and has been since the sixteeth century. It is a war of
terrorism and not land armies.It is war of insurgencies that last for years.
It is fouth generation warfare. It is a war in which low tech weapons will
play a larger and larger part. War is something I know about. War and the
military is something you know nothing about. You dont know how to win it or
fight it. You do know how to lose it. You no longer even have the stomach
for it.
In fact you are totally ignorant on the subject. Why dont you go read " The
Sling and the Stone" and
" Learning to Eat Soup with a Knife." Then you will have a tiny bit of
knowledge about warfare and none about weapons.
However, I think you are as much a waste of my time as Hal is.


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