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Oh, right, then they'll have peace just like in 1967, when they were
behind those borders.


Nothing can guarantee peace, but it lays the foundation for peace.

You know nothing, nothing of the actual history, nor the actual theology. And as a marxist, historical revisionism is the only modus operandi that makes any sense to you. Here, let's begin your education about the peace, prior to the state:

Just a small piece- and there's a mountain more. You should look at the pictures of the Mufti with Adolf, and the concentration camp he tried to build in Shechem, in Israel in 43'. The jews destroyed it as the arabs tried to construct it.

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The massacres of jews of course, took place long before any state of Israel existed, although the mere idea of one, was anathema to Islam. Not all. Many had actually welcomed the idea as one bringing vitality and rebirth to the nascent new arab states all carved out of the Ottoman empire. But that was not to last but for a few moments.

The massacres in Israel, of which there were many in the 20's and 30's were exemplified by that at Hebron. Here is that story.


The 1929 Hebron Massacre

Pierre Van Paassen was in Palestine and provides a graphic account of
the 1929 pogrom against the Jews of Hebron in his book Days of Our
Years, from which the following comes.

Van Paasen shows that the Mufti of Jerusalem was behind the riots and slaughter and accuses the British administration of aiding and abetting the Mufti.

Falsified photographs showing the Omar mosque of Jerusalem in ruins,
with an inscription that the edifice had been bombed by the Zionists,
were handed out to the Arabs of Hebron as they were leaving their place
of worship on Friday evening, August the twenty-third.

A Jew passing by on his way to the synagogue was stabbed to death.

When he heard of the murder, Rabbi Slonim, a man born and bred in the city and a friend of the Arab notables, notified the British police commander that the Arabs
seemed to be strangely excited. He was told to mind his own business.

An hour later the synagogue was attacked by a mob, and the Jews at prayer
were slaughtered.

On the Saturday morning following, the Yeshiva...was put to the sack, and the students were slain.

A delegation of Jewish citizens thereupon set out to visit the police station, but was met by the lynchers.

The Jews returned and took refuge in the house of Rabbi Slonim where they remained until evening, when the mob appeared before the door. Unable to batter it down, the Arabs climbed up the trees at the rear of the house and, dropping onto the balcony, entered through the windows on the first floor.

Mounted police--Arab troopers in the service of the government-- had
appeared outside by this time, and some of the Jews ran down the stairs
of Slonim's house and out into the roadway.

They implored the policemen to dismount and protect their friends and relatives inside the house and clung around the necks of the horses.

From the upper windows came the terrifying screams of the old people, but the police galloped off, leaving the boys in the road to be cut down by Arabs arriving from all
sides for the orgy of blood.

What occurred in the upper chambers of Slonim's house could be seen when
we found the twelve-foot-high ceiling splashed with blood.

The rooms looked like a slaughterhouse.

When I visited the place in the company of Captain Marek Schwartz, a former Austrian artillery officer, Mr. Abraham Goldberg of New York, and Mr. Ernst Davies, correspondent of the old Berliner Tageblatt, the blood stood in a huge pool on the slightly sagging stone floor of the house.

Clocks, crockery, tables and windows had been smashed to smithereens. Of the unlooted articles, not a single item had been left intact except a large black-and-white photograph of Dr. Theodore Herzl, the founder of political Zionism.

Around the picture's frame the murderers had draped the blood-drenched underwear of
a woman.

We stood silently contemplating the scene of slaughter when the door was flung open by a British solder with fixed bayonet.

In strolled Mr. Keith-Roach, governor of the Jaffa district, followed by a colonel of
the Green Howards battalion of the King's African Rifles. They took a hasty glance around that awful room, and Mr. Roach remarked to his companion, "Shall we have lunch now or drive to Jerusalem first?"

In Jerusalem the Government published a refutation of the rumors that the dead Jews of Hebron had been tortured before they had their throats slit.

This made me rush back to that city accompanied by two medical men, Dr. Dantziger and Dr. Ticho.

I intended to gather up the severed sexual organs and the cut-off women's breasts we had seen lying scattered over the floor and in the beds.

But when we came to Hebron a telephone call from Jerusalem had ordered our access barred to the Slonim house. A heavy guard had been placed before the door.

Only then did I recall that I had inadvertently told a fellow newspaperman in Jerusalem about our gruesome discoveries.

On the same day of the Hebron massacre, the Arabs had rioted in Jerusalem, crying: "Death to the Jews! The government is with us!"

The fact that the attacks on Jewish communities in different parts of the
country had occurred simultaneously was interpreted by the Mufti's newspaper Falastin as irrefutable evidence of the spontaneity of the outburst of Arab indignation.

The Acting High Commissioner, Mr. H.C. Luke, had informed newspapermen that the government had been completely taken unawares.

Yet a full ten days earlier it was he who had ordered the various hospitals, and especially the Rothschild clinic of which Dr. Dantziger was chief surgeon, to have a large number of beds in readiness in view of the government's expectation of a riotous outbreak.

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The leader of this series of destructive purposeful massacres of the 'dhimmi' were lead by this man. Haj Amin Al-Husseini. He was the arabs representative in Berlin during WW II, and the one to request of Adolf Hitler to rid the world of the jews in the Middleast as well as all Europe.
He did not succeed, thank God, but he did establish two divisions of muslim SS troops in Europe that did succeed in rounding up some 50,000 hungarian and other Jews, for the slaughter houses of Adolf Hitler.
Here is the picture of the Handzar flag of the muslim bosnian SS divisions.

1943 Hanzar Nazi Division Flag- I can't put the picture up, but google it. The two Muslim divisions of SS soldiers help kill about 50,000 Jews, and some gypsies. They prefered killing the jews though. Haz Amin Al Husseini created them.


In 1943, Amin Al Husseini heads the Hanzar Division of Nazi Muslims. It was Hitler's largest SS Division and was responsible for the genocide of Serbians, Gypsies and Jews. It lies at the root of today's unrest in Serbia/Bosnia

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a short history of Amin Al Husseini



4/16/2007 Hitler's Compatriot Lost In History
By: David Bedein , The Bulletin

Jeruslaem - The 27th day of Nisan year in the Hebrew calendar marks the day when the Warsaw Ghetto uprising began against the Nazis in 1943.
It was therefore selected as Holocaust Remembrance and Heroism Day in Israel - the day on which Israel would remember the mass murder of Jews in World War II - not only as a day of mourning an remorse, but also as a day to remember those who fought back against the Nazis and their allies.
To paraphrase the questions asked on Passover two weeks ago, people often ask why this persecution of Jews in Christian countries was different than other persecutions?
After all, Jews had suffered persecution in Christian lands over the centuries.
This time, Nazis incorporated the Muslim idea of Jihad, which involved the impulse to total destruction and complete annihilation in the spirit of a Holy War.
The Muslim cleric who inspired Adolf Hitler with the idea of Jihad was none other than the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin El Husseini. He did not want masses of exiled Jews to wind up in the land of Israel, which he claimed as a future Arab Palestine, devoid of Jews.
Indeed, in 1936, the Mufti welcomed Hitler's deputy, Adolf Eichmann, to his office at the Supreme Islamic Council based at the Palace Hotel in the center of Jerusalem, where Eichmann kept meticulous records of his meetings with the Mufti, where the Palestinian Arab leader of that generation taught Eichmann about the philosophy of Jihad.
Journalist Maurice Pearlman, who reviewed the records of Eichmann's meetings with the Mufti at the trials for Nazi leader in Nuremberg, wrote a book entitled The Mufti Of?Jerusalem, published in 1947, in which Pearlman noted that the Mufti instructed Eichmann that the way in which the Nazis could best persecute the Jews was to do so slowly and in stages, so as to catch them unaware of the next stage of persecution.
Eichmann offered reciprocal hospitality for the Mufti in Nazi Germany. In 1939, with the outbreak of World War II, the British government, then presiding over the mandatory government in Palestine, expelled the Mufti, who chose to travel to fascist Italy and then to Berlin, where he remained for the remainder of World War II. Hitler provided the Mufti with a radio station in Berlin from where he propagated the Nazi message in the Arabic language, and the Mufti was assigned the task of organizing a Muslim contingent of the Nazi murder machine which killed Jews throughout Yugoslavia.
The Mufti obtained Hitler's assurance in November 1941 that after dealing with the Jews of Europe, Hitler would treat the Jews of the Middle East similarly. Husseini promised the support of the Arabs for the Nazi war effort. In Berlin, Husseini used the money confiscated from Jewish victims to finance pro-Nazi activities in the Middle East and to raise 20,000 Muslim troops in Bosnia, in the Hanjar S.S. Waffen, who murdered tens of thousands of Serbs and Jews in the Balkans and served as police auxiliary in Hungary.
Heinreich Himmler, the administrator of the Nazi death machine, brought the Mufti on numerous tours of the death camps. Most recently, a book was written about the ZunderKommandos, whose task it was to remove the dead Jews from the crematoria.
One of those ZunderKommandos remarked in an interview with a researcher that he witnessed a man with a turban whom the Nazi camp commandant brought to witness the gassing of he Jews and the removal of the bodies from the gas chambers, the stripping of their valuables and the burning of their remains. The Nazi told the ZunderKommando that this was the Mufti of Jerusalem. During the final months of the war, the Mufti actually lived in Hitler's bunker. Although arrested by the French army, the Mufti was somehow able to escape to Cairo. The Mufti was later sentenced to death in absentia in Yugoslavia.
After Adolf Eichmann was abducted and brought to Jerusalem for trial in 1961, Golda Meir, then the foreign minister of Israel, demanded that the Mufti also be brought to trial for the same crime of genocide against the Jewish people.
The Mufti's legacy did not stop when he escaped the defeated Nazi Germany. Upon arrival in Cairo, he resumed the role that he had left, as the spiritual leader - in exile - of the Palestinian Arab community. The Mufti played a key role in the decision of the Arab League to reject the U.N. partition plan in 1947 to declare a Jewish and an Arab state in Palestine. Instead, the Mufti rallied Arabs throughout the Arab world to apply Hitler's concept of the final solution to wipe out the Jews in their nascent state of Israel.
The Mufti raised a new generation of young Palestinian Arabs to form a new Muslim brotherhood to take up the cause of a lifelong effort to eradicate the Jewish state. The Mufti also became a surrogate father to a young man who took upon the name Yassir Arafat, a name given to him by the Mufti in memory of Yasser bin Ammar, a celebrated Muslim warrior and companion of the prophet. The relationship between the Mufti and Arafat was related by Arafat's brother Fatchi to the HaAretz newspaper in December 1996.
The Mufti died in July 1974, one month after the PLO National Council met and ratified the Mufti's "strategy of stages" - to conquer Palestine in phases - as the strategic methodology that the PLO uses to this day.
With the outbreak of the Palestinian Arab rebellion known as the Second Intifada in October 2000, a theme that repeated itself over and over on the official Palestinian television station overseen by Arafat was the use of an academic lecture, broken up by martial music, to highlight the comparison between Yasser Arafat and the late Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini. Listeners were told how Husseini opposed the Jews (al-Yahoud) in Jerusalem and how he stood up to then-world power Great Britain, as a model for Arafat's struggle in the modern era.
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somewhat reduntantly is this article that recounts much of this, with some additional facts....

Nazis, Arabs Planned Final Solution for Pre-State Israel

By Stan Goodenough

Nazi Germans responding to the pleas of Palestinian Arabs planned to open up a "branch" of the Holocaust in the Land of Israel and exterminate the half-a-million Jews then living in the land in line with Adolph Hitler's plan to rid mankind of its "Jewish problem."

According to reports carried in the Israeli press over the weekend, a new study by two German historians has revealed that in 1942 the Nazis created a special SS force - one of its mobile death squads known as "Einsatzgruppe" - tasked to do to the Jews in British-mandated Palestine what was being done to them in Poland and other parts of Europe.

Called the "Einsatzgruppe Egypt," this Jew-killing force was formed shortly after "Palestinian" leader Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, personally visited Hitler in Berlin and offered the services of his people to the cause of the Third Reich.

By then nationalism was burgeoning among the Arabs of Palestine who -- motivated by their religious beliefs which taught hatred of the Jews and rejection of Jewish sovereignty over any territory previously under Islamic rule -- were despairing of their own efforts to prevent the rebirth of the Jewish state.

For them, the rise of Nazi Germany was an answer to their daily prayers for help from "Allah and the Prophet."

Two years earlier al-Husseini messaged Hitler to congratulate him:

"...on the occasion of [your] great political and military triumphs....The Arab nation everywhere feels the greatest joy and deepest gratification on the occasion of these great successes.... The Arab people...confidently expect the result of your final victory will be their independence and complete liberation.... [T]hey will [then] be linked to your country by a treaty of friendship and collaboration."

In late 1941 al-Husseini arrived in Mussolini's Rome and, after conversing with Il Duce and the Fuhrer, got the Fascist and Nazi leaders to make a joint pronouncement committing their nations to helping in "the elimination of the Jewish national home in Palestine."

Follow-up meetings between the Mufti and Hitler found an understanding, according to the American historian Howard M. Sachar, whereby Hitler's forces would invade Palestine with the goal being "not the occupation of the Arab lands but solely the destruction of Palestine Jewry."

According to a report in Ynetnews Saturday, "the director of the Nazi research centre in Ludwigsburg, Klaus-Michael Mallman and Berlin historian Martin Cueppers say an Einsatzgruppe was all set to go to Palestine and begin killing the roughly half-a-million Jews that had fled Europe to escape Nazi death camps like Auschwitz and Birkenau."

This special death squad led by Obersturmbannfuehrer Walther Rauff was attached to Rommel's Africa Korps and was waiting in Athens for the British to be driven from the Levant.

Wrote Mallman and Cueppers: "The central plan for the group was the realisation of the Holocaust in Palestine."

Though he may never have realized the wider impact of his actions, the great British general Bernard Montgomery saved the Jews of Palestine when he hurled Rommel's forces back at El Alamein.

The "Einsatzgruppe Egypt" never left Athens.

It was the beginning of the end for Hitler, who saw his primary calling and mission as being to "cleanse" the world, not just Europe, of all Jews.

His efforts to do so were facilitated by the centuries of Christian Judenhaas that preceded him, and notably by the teachings of the great reformer Martin Luther, to whose antisemitic railings Hitler appealed as he sought to justify the genocide of European Jewry.

Even as he saw defeat coming, the Nazi leader frantically increased the efforts to realize his goal. His Einsatzgruppe were ultimately responsible, by their own admission, for killing one million of Hitler's six million Jewish victims.

Much to the vexation of al-Husseini and his followers, they did not get to the Jews of Palestine. Nonetheless, the same hatred and religious fervor that drove the Mufti to applaud Hitler and seek to collaborate in his final solution persists in the Arab world today.

"The only thing we have against Hitler," wrote popular Egyptian columnist Anis Mansour a number of years ago, "is that he did not finish with the Jews."
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