Re: Eye (MF) jab, poke, gauge, ... : how to train
- From: Shuurai <Shuurai11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:48:01 -0700
No; this is an example of people spending time on *** that, firstly,
isn't necessary to be a successful fighter; and secondly, is so low
percentage in terms of both practicality and functionality as to
actually be counter-productive to ones training.
No = fact -or- OPINION?! Get it straight.
It's a well-founded opinion that is based on years of experience
actually training and fighting.
Its not a low percentage strike to the person who has
trained it well. And, its Very usefull in situations
where you do not have time to do other methods, such
as 3 people attacking you at once.
It is a low percentage strike, regardless of how you've trained it.
You're living in a fantasy world.
Define successful fighter... because IMOP, a Dead
fighter is not one such fighter. When you show me
vids of your successfuly taking out 3 people at a time
consistently, Ill consider you to be a good source of
truthful information. Untill then, you are more theroetical
then ever.
Where are your vids? You're the one claiming to be able to take out
three people at a time - consistantly, no less - so I assume you've
got several videos of yourself doing so?
In the real world, it ends up being as much (or more) a matter of when
and where you hit than exactly how you hit. Single-punch knockouts
aren't necessarily about your punch being super powerful; it's often
just a matter of hitting the guy just right, and at the right moment.
Hit the guy at just the right place, right moment, and in the
correct way... Hmmm, what if someone trainied to do that...
to perfection even... Hmmm...
Sure, you've got to have the ability to hit a target that presents
itself; but that has more to do with the ability to see the targets
than with pinpoint accuracy. More to do with timing, distance, and in
some sense instinct.
Sure you have.
See above comment...
What about it? As I've said before, I simply don't believe you. I
don't believe that you've done all this training - I certainly don't
believe you've had any fights, with anyone. It's nothing personal;
there is just way too much that you've said that has been
unrealistic. Way too many times where your story has changed.
No, as it turns out, Moe grabs Larry's nose in a pair of pliars and
sticks his head under a clothes press.
Hard to believe you waste your time writing your
fantasies here...
I have it on video :)
There are many artist out there that can draw great
with markers. Hand them a paint brush, and they are
crap.
Drawing and painting are different skills; many artists develop both,
others choose to specialize. Some people are naturally good at one or
the other, or both. Those who aren't naturals can get good at one or
the other, or both, provided they work at it. I'm really not sure
where you think you're going with this...
Quite simply that the non naturals have to work hard
at Any skill to excell at them. Most are not born martail
arts naturals. And, even the naturals need to develop
to attain good levels of perfected skills.
Each skill is variously different. So much so, that its
like Drawing -vs- Painting, which is why I brought that up.
Each takes a very different training method to become
very good at... even tho they share similar foundations.
All of this is obvious, but how does it relate to your claims? Great
artists as often as not have a broad range of medium. Great
musicians, as often as not, have a wide range of instruments that they
play. People who are painters can improve their craft considerably by
learning how to draw, and vice-versa.
Your claim is that people who train more generally end up having
"***" technique; I'm telling you from experience the opposite is
true. Learning to grapple *improves* your striking; it doesn't hinder
it. Having a bigger range of weapon tends to make all of your weapons
more effective, not less.
Ask a girl who draws kittens and cute things
to draw a mech robot, and her drawing will suck too.
It really depends. If she actually is good at drawing, chances are
she'll be able to draw anything she wants.
A person REALLY GOOD at drawing has mastered drawing by
serious practive over years of time. They have perfected
thier craft.
In many cases it has nothing to do with perfecting any craft. Some of
the best do it by way of expression, not perfect technique. Check out
some of the line drawings that Picasso did. Those aren't examples of
perfected technique; they're examples of someone just letting the ink
express a moment in time. The ability to capture a moment is what
seperates a real artist from someone who just happens to draw well.
On the drawing side, there are 2 main types of drawing
styles. Straightline, and curve.
When I think of styles I tend to think of terms like anime, abstract,
realist, pointillist... "straightline and curve" as styles is a bit
silly.
Many people can draw
achetechtually, such as buildings and robots. But, they
are not so good at curvy abstract things such as human
faces, body, animals..etc. Yes, one can learn to do
both.. and that is the point. That each has a certain
level of skill (training+practice) needed.
By your reasoning, a curvy robot would be the pinnacle of drawing
skill...
Would you rather be an artist who can draw anything well, or an artist
who can draw a kitten extremely well but not anything else?
If you can draw everything so/so, then you will be lucky
if you can sell your works. However, if you can develop
extreme talent in one thing, you could make a great living.
But if you can draw anything WELL, not so/so, you can make an even
better living. Again, you assume that the ability to do more than one
thing translates into doing it poorly.
What about instruments? Some can play drums, but
couldnt play a lick of Guitar.
Again, these are entirely different skills. One thing you'll find
though, is that it's a lot easier to learn an instrument after you've
learned the fundamentals of music.
Yes, that was a bit unfair. Yet, its still a valid
concept, as some things are more complex than others
in the arts. Also, and again, the skills needed to
pyhsically be good at each of these are very different.
The physical skills for playing a guitar are easy; it takes practice,
but it's not a difficult skill to learn and once you learn it there
really isn't a whole lot to improve physically. Eric Johnson doesn't
fret a better chord than your average garage band guitarist does; it's
how he uses those chords that makes him great.
They also share many similar foundations, such as
2 (or more in drums) limbs doing different things
at the same moment in time.
Like the guitar, the real skill is mental, not physical. The physical
side of it can be picked up quickly; it's learning to keep time that
makes a drummer.
I am in fact Artistic, so I know what Im talking
about.
I've seen the drawings on your webpage. Interesting.
I said Arstistic, not 'Im an artsit'. For one, those
are my garbage drawings, and also are only conceptual..
which is my real interest.
I wasn't criticizing them.
.
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