Re: OT-War history repeats itself



The emperor was a mere figurehead, he had no real power in Japan.

You are a nut case if you believe that. He was revered figurehead and
probably should have been indicted for complicity in the war.


----And why wasn't he?


Do you really not know the answer to that question? Do you really want me to
answer it for you? Surely you have read enough WW II history to know that
answer. I dont believe you, who claim to be an authority, cannot answer that
question.
A better question might be why did we let those Japanese off scott free
that ran the infamous prison camp that conducted medical experiments.

There have
been books written on it. I have one.

----You should read it, maybe a couple others with a different POV.

I did. It was very obvious he was involved. Who do you think broadcasted the
surrender?


And you are going to blockade a total island country
raised on fanatical devotion and think they are going to wave a white
flag
right away. That is most foolish stupid thing I ever heard.
You are now totally wasting my time with liberal hand wringing. BYE.

-----I know. In your world, there's no such thing as a military coup.

There almost was a military coup. It was directed against the emperor in
an
attempt not to have him broadcast a surrender to all the Japanese. But
wait
a minute he was just a figure head. So why did the military try a coup?
Confuing for you.

----What a coincidence. Last night on "War in the Pacific", the show
demonstrated that the peace faction (behind Togo) in the Japanese
admin was warning that civil unrest was brewing, and the Russians may
be about to enter the war, thus facilitating a possible conversion to
Communism. This was before the a-bombs, and before Okinawa was lost.A
blockade would surely have put the country in revolt. Your book must
be from 1946 and have a buck toothed, bespeckled Jap on the front.

That is real nice. It was before Okinawa and did not stop a fight to death
on that island. So much for the peace faction and the revolt. Take a really
good look at Japanese culture back then. They were making bamboo spears to
repel an invasion. Does that sound like people who were going to give up
easily to you.
My book is not the fiction that you conjure up to try and prove a point.
Obviously you are not as well aquainted with the history as I thought. Ever
read, " The Rising Sun" by John Toland.

All the Japanese were stupid, blind devotees.

Yeah in your make believe world places like Okinawa etc, with those
stupid
blind devotees that fought to the death, did not exist either. How many
of
those starving Japanese surrendered? Damn few.
If your strategy was so simple why assault those islands? Oh I know your
Marine Generals were not in charge and were shouted down by the
Republicans
and conservatives.

----You can't think strategically, can you? We would have needed some
of those islands to blockade Japan.

Yes I can. Drop the atomic bomb and I dont need the Islands anymore. I dont
have to spend an enormous amount of money and time on all those ships and
all the logistical support you are magically conjuring up to blockade an
Island nation. I think Truman thought that through rather well. BOOM.

Oh I thought you were going to do it with ships.
Some were strategically un-
nessassary (Pelelui) Your hero MacArthur wanted to crawl up Asia and
attack from China, didn't he? Fought Nimitz's island hopping canpaign
tooth and nail, didn't he?

Actually MacArthur's strategy was to starve them out. That is why he
bypassed Rabaul. You will find it in " American Caesar."

All the Muslims are stupid, blind devotees.

Well I see you base that statement on your vast knowledge of the
situation.

-----As opposed to yours?

Which is much more extensive than yours. Would you like to compare a list of
books read in say the last two years.


Which amounts to zero.Tch I even recommended a book to you that gives
some
hope that is not the case. But not a hell of a lot. " Now They Call Me
Infidel." However, a lot of it might destroy your complacency too. After
all
the writer did spend the first 30 years of her life living in Egypt so
she
might have a somewhat better grasp of the situation than you. But then I
already told you I am not in the business of saving you from yourself
anymore. I am in the business of looking out for myself.

They need to be incinerated.
It's a war against civilization, but the rich need not contribute, in
funding or blood.

Well why should they contribute to something that you think is fiction.

----Well, that's you're stance, aint it? Fight and die so the rich can
continue to profit, keep the dirty Muslims away, and maybe you'll get
some crumbs from the table.

Gee
you see you need to convince the rich that this needs to be done so you
can
tax them. After all the Clintonians never believed that Saddam had WMDs.
They were just lying all that time.

In fact, they should pay no taxes at all.

'
Now there is a program I can support.

----Ah, footstool would be the correct term.


More conservative claptrap.

" About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,
in
1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of
Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
2,000 years prior:
' A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
gifts
from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes
for
the candidates, who promise the most benefits from the public treasury,
with
the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal
policy which is always followed by a dictatorship.' "
No wonder you liberals want my guns so badly.
Or
"From bondage to spiritual faith
From spiritual faith to great courage
From courage to liberty
From liberty to abundance
From abundance to complacency
From complacency to apathy
From apathy to dependence
From dependence to back into bondage."
Tax and spend! The power to tax is the power to destroy.

----Sure, we can run a country on the hot air of conservative
blowhards.
Or we can tax it into oblivion so you can save the chillun and run
giveaways.


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