Re: ot-letter from a marine

Dang, Google seems to have lost my reply.I'll try to duplicate it ,
apologies if it shows up.




-----Perhaps you need to re-read the definition of "strawman".

Nah, the current one will do just fine.

You are now admiting that you are bringing up stuff that is not even
in the top 10 list of relevancy. Carry on.

----I'd put it in the top five, like that notorious liberal, General
Odom.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3430

Excuse me? Are you really that dense? The fact that Odom created the
strawman himself,


-----BWAHAHAHA!


and put it at number 5 doesn't make it any less of a
strawman when YOU use it!

---You still lose when you resort to childish vulgarities.

Oh right ... I forgot what newsgroup we were on. When was that rule
established?

---Ok, I win an arguement when I say "*** You?"

I never said that.

Well, *** you, then.
Damn, that's easy.

However, by your definition, you just lost.


-----However, by your definition, it was a display of debating
wit......


And when you use mispelling of peoples names on purpose?

----Where did I do this?

Are you syaing you never ever have mispelled O'reilley's or anothers
name. Ok suds mcdufus! (that was an example for illustration purposes.
see if you can figure it out.)

----Point out where I did this as in the example above, and did it
first without being insulted, or admit that you're a liar.
Spelling errors don't count, as I've not pointed out yours....


----Probably mirroring my antagonist, if it happened at all.....

Oh, I see. Now you resort to claiming you were playing 'copycat'.
Another grown up game, I suppose?


----Ah, you're not supposed to return fire when flamed? You're right,
you wouldn't make a good soldier.....



To answer your question ... Nope, I'm up for it. Bring em here.

----You're the one in search of a challenging arguement, claiming mine
inadequete. They won't come to you, you've got to go there.

Obviously, they are mightily afeared!

-----Or the fact that many political junkies AREN"T MARTIAL ARTISTS
and discuss politics in political forums.
Are you sure you're a PhD, I'm starting to have doubts......


I've simply pointed you in the direction you asked for.

I didn't ask for directions...


-----Sure you did. Here's a real life scenerio:

Mike K: "I wanna kick some ass, and you're no challenge. Where they
at?"

Suds: "There's a boxing gym right around the corner, I'm sure you
could get a sparring partner there."

Mike K: "Hell, no, bring em here." <walks backward rather briskly>




Go get em, tiger. BWHAHAHA!

It's amazing how you, dobbie, wannabee and other trolls regard it as
some sort of vindication when you laugh at your own jokes.


----I'm not laughing at a *joke*, troll, I'm laughing at your
intellectual cowardice.




----I've served my hitch, Sparky. And you?

What does that have to do with your insincere comments about my care
package,

-----Oh, no, I was sincere about sending a package, until I found out
you were a civilian. No stogies and porn for you....

Ahh, my apologies then. It's hard to read your level of sincerity,
when you continuously use duplicitous tactics.


-----Yawn. Such as......?




and glib comments about me going to Iraq?

-----Why won't you support your president and his party's policies
with your military service?

You don't think it is enough that I changed career paths?


-----No.


You think
that civilians that put their life on the line in theatre are
cowardly?


----Doesn't carry nearly as much weight as grunts do.......



Are you fit enough?

I think so. Age limitations now.

Too good to be a common soldier? What?

That's a good question. What does the military normally due with PhD
level scientists that enlist?


----Well, gee, in the Guard or Reserves you could do *both*.



I do not know.


----Well, hell, just volunteer for the infantry, then.



You should know full well that I am not enrolled in the military.

----And how would I know that, Sparky?

I might expect you to have a memory.


-----Delusions of grandeur? Why would I possibly know anything about
you, except that you're a right wing troll?


Let me give you a short primer...

----Yawn. Must you?

Oh, I insist!

I'm the PhD physicist who now works for the ARL,

----What is the ARL?

Army Research Lab.

----Seems to me you have all the time in the world to troll RMA. Hows
that monitor tan?

Nah, it isn't that hard to remember names when you have above average
IQ...


----Names are easy. Biographies, however, display a level of interest
that I lack.Sorry.



You, suds mcduff, are the guy who wants everyone to go argue with
someone else.

------Yawn. *You* asked for somewhere else to troll, remember?

Poor memory again ... You've done this in the past ...try to
remember... think hard ... warm up those ganglia...


----Different scenerio. Here's the current one:

Mike K: "I wanna kick some ass, and you're no challenge. Where they
at?"

Suds: "There's a boxing gym right around the corner, I'm sure you
could get a sparring partner there."

Mike K: "Hell, no, bring em here." <walks backward rather briskly>



Who spends his time reading what bloggers and crap say
about subjects, but never invstigates on his own, even if he has the
ability.

----Ah. General Odom's just a blogger with no credentials. Right. PhD,
huh?

Um ... I wasn't questioning that authority of the bloggers. reread
please.

----I know, you claim Gen Odom fabricated the low troop morale
scenario out of whole cloth, just to attack Bush's policy.
Just so you know, that puts you squarely in the lunatic fringe.......



Sure thing. I'll continue to support the military regardless of who
the president is, I hear it changes every 4-8 years.

"Support, but never serve." Great motto ya got there, doc.
Your support consists of pointing to Iraq and saying, "Get em guys!"
doesn't it?

*** you, you self righteous pice of crap.


-------BWAHAHAHA! <dingdingdingding>


I eat with, get caught in
traffic with and work out with soldiers on a daily basis. My work will
save more soldiers lives than your efforts did.

-----Sure, sure, on usenet chubby girls become fashion models and
mid aged accountants become
twenty something stock car drivers.
However, the common soldiers will never respect you, you realize that
don't you?
Your soldier "buddies" think you're a weenie and mock you when among
their own.
Nothing personal, that's just how it is.
People like me put their asses on the line while living lives of
privation.
People like you live in nice digs, make lots of money while urging us
into the fray
so you can make even more money.
Do you see how the common grunt would see you as effete, and somehow
well connected enough to avoid the streets?
It's not their fault, not your fault, that's just how it is.


> ----I'm not talkin about collecting a six figure salary while
staying

in a hotel in the green zone. Why not the Guard or Reserve? Too good?
4F?

It's amazing how you ask the same question over and over again in the
same post, even before I've had a chance to answer. Is that some
attempt to create an illusion of substance?


----Well, you've finally addressed it, haven't you? Or have you?



You really could do with a course or two on debate.


-------Why spend the money? Here I am, a simple carpenter, and I've
flustered a mighty PhD so bad
he resorted to cursing like a teen, twice! That's about as good as it
gets on usenet.



But hey, thanks again for your sincerity...

----Bye. It's been real, it's been fun, but it ain't been real fun.

So clever.


----Oldie but goodie.



Maybe you'll be able to troll us from Iraq.

Let's get this straight here and now. I do not have any set date lined
up.


----I see.It was a bluff to lose the "chickenhawk" label?


The possibility exists, but is dependant on many factors.



----One of them being if you've volunteered or not?




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