Re: Evangelical professor tackles 'religious right'

travisgod@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
-----This was the part of the thread in which the discussion was
centered on the popular election of officials who promote a "safety net"
and their popularity with the electorate, not economics. Most people
actually think helping the elderly and disabled is a noble, even Xtian
thing to do. *That's* why you assholes have to cloak your meanness in
double talk and "compassionate conservatism."

STFU, jeezus christ. All you wanna do is fucking argue against
strawmen.

The effing policy, as written, is UNSUSTAINABLE. Period. Jesus or
not.

----According to *my* SS statement, I'll receive the princely sum of
around $2300 a month, in 2026 (!), if I make it to 70. Yahoo, Cancun
here I come!

Perfect. I'm glad you cited that. Does it occur to you, even vaguely,
that the majority of people DO NOT EVEN EARN THAT IN A MONTH?

----IN 2026, DOUCHEBAG !!???

THOSE
are your SS payors, idiot!

---You're right. We should take more from the extremely wealthy.




---And have worked and contributed to the fund all of their lives...

THERE IS NO FUND.

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/funds.html



----I'm sure the elderly bag "boys" at the grocery actually have huge
mansions, and only work menial jobs for the exercise and social contact.
My dad is laughing at you from his grave. Rich on SS payments? Ah Ha Ha Ha!
Yet, you wouldn't deign to limit the payments to the poor and mid class,
so your "wealth transfer" excuse is moot.

Can you fucking READ? RICHER <> RICH. The YOUNG who are PAYING are
even POORER than the old who are receiving! BETTER?

----Have you ever been outside your air conditioned office? When I propose means testing for SS payment, you flatly refuse. The poor to the rich bull*** for ending the program doesn't fly.


----Sure it's true. You just want to lay it all on the Libs and Dems.
The same site says that the trustees estimate a shortfall of 3.7
trillion over the next 75 years with a Medicare shortfall of 8.1
trillion. Wow, that's a shitload of money! But look. Bush's taxbreaks
for the rich will cost us 11.6 trillion, and they want even more! The
Dept of Def goes into deficit almost every year! Where's your screamin
and foamin over the effects of tax cuts for the rich?

TAX CUTS DO NOT COST US A FUCKING THING.

----Taxbreaks for the rich will cost the Fed govt 11.6 trillion over the next 75 yrs. If you don't consider the Fed govt "us" you'd be correct.

I pay NO additional cost as a
result of the government collecting less revenue. We ONLY PAY WHEN THE
GOVERNMENT SPENDS AND COLLECTS REVENUE TO MATCH THE SPENDING.

The government and its spending are OUT OF CONTROL.

----See--Iraq, Afghan, and soon, Iran.

The biggest
offenders are the ENTITLEMENTS programs for the elderly. BY FAR.


----Your solution is....?


-----Nah, it's right wingers that stride hand in hand with the fundie
fringe groups. Seculars are stunned and disgusted when these religious
nutjobs kill themselves and their followers whilst thumping the bible.

You are the one citing Jesus, you freaking deranged lunatic.

---Just to point out the hypocrisy of Repub toadying fundies, dope.


----I'll take that as a "yes"

Listen, "suds," you pathetic moron...you can write "wheel them in the
street" as many times as you want and argue against it.

----It's yes, then. You haven't provided a solution, *except* cut their funding. Show me where you suggested otherwise.





It doesn't MATTER what I want...what matters is what can be AFFORDED!



-----We can afford 11 trillion in tax cuts from the most wealthy?



----Wow. It's only our system of govt. Wow. Are you saying the founding
fathers were inept when they designed our representative democracy? Now,
we see who the traitor is, and it ain't FDR.

Are you ENTIRELY clueless? Yes, I think you are. The founding fathers
would have been COMPLETELY AGAINST this type of government.

----Representative democracy? Do tell.

What we
have now, a socialist system, had no PRECEDENT in the United States for
150 YEARS.

---Perhaps that's because the pre-industrial US had no precedent for it, but to foamers like you, 18th century america is the same as 20th century america.

The Constitution was designed to PREVENT this type of ***,
which is why FDR had to pack the Court!!!

----FDR *tried* to "pack the court" (GW Bush is attempting to "pack the court" as well, but with ultra-conservatives) because the SC was composed of elderly conservatives, some of whom who couldn't seem to grasp that the world had changed drastically since the 19th century.

http://www.hpol.org/fdr/chat/

He didn't succeed, but you didn't mention that little fact did you, you dishonest ***.

http://www.bartleby.com/59/12/rooseveltsco.html
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/12/04/supreme_switch/



Is there even ONE thing that you DO know?

---I know without doubt that you are a dishonest douchebag.

I have grown totally sick of
reading the same tired bull*** out of your mouth. Fine...don't
listen. Don't pay attention. *** you. I don't really GIVE A ***.

---Then why the *** do you keep foaming in this thread? Move on, you execrable, lying douchebag.

What will happen will happen anyway and that is the elimination or
severe curtailment of FDR's socialist dream because it is TOO
EXPENSIVE. And, you know what, "suds," it's gonna happen whether you
fucking like it or NOT.


----We'll see. The elderly will soon have a formidable voting block, making SS even more of a political third rail.


---It was too late for us when the mostly Repub admins elected gunboat
diplomacy instead of conservation and development on new resources to
secure our energy supply, but that's another thread.

WHAT new resources?

Deuterium, tritium.

Do you have even MORE stupid *** to say??!

---Debt incurred by this conservative administrations policies as by any
other.

AND?!!??!!

----If you haven't noticed, you started out by blaming Dems, liberals, and FDR exclusively, dishonest douche, and only modified your tune when I called you on it.


What should we do, WHEEL THEM INTO THE STREET, you fucking idiot?
NO...let's give them ALL a big gazillion $ drug benefit with YOU and
your kids, if you conned some poor women into bearing them, the bill!

----*Yawn* More douchebag hyperbole.



In case you haven't NOTICED, I am neither a REPUBLICAN nor in favor of
Bush's medicare drug benefit.

-----Maybe, maybe not, but your views in this case are squarely in line with the repub far right wing.

PAY ATTENTION. I know you would really
like this to devolve into a Democrap vs. Repubnicon argument so that
you can just chimp out and hurl epithets.

-----Hurling epithets??!! What a fucking hypocrite you are, Travisdouche. I only respond in kind, *you're* the "*** persona" that insults everybody, remember? That's *your* thing, remember?

Most shoddy thinkers such as
you want that. It makes them smug in their stupid little narrowminded
cognitive dissonance.

----And your strawman of the rich, elderly SS recipients bankrupting the
country?

YOU CANNOT READ. The elderly are richER than the young. RICH ER.
POUND it into your fucking SKULL with a gd'd HAMMER, you idiot.

----Next time, don't cloak your bull*** in absolutes, then cry that you're misunderstood, you dishonest ***.


---Good, move on then, douche. Perhaps you might want to post to a
political NG, but then, you know you'll get your ass handed to you
there, so you continue to play "genius shitheel" on RMA. Don't get me
wrong, I loved the idea of the *** net persona back in the day, but
the bull***'s gotten a little worn through the years.

Political NG...populated by people JUST LIKE YOU who have NOTHING
substantive to say except RAH RAH cheerleading for their fucking DOOMED
Peter Pan ideas about equality and government and how everyone can be
above average. And, the other side is going to shout "liberal liberal
liberal" and thinks we should invade every fking country on the
planet...wtfever.

----Ah ha ha ha....Cluck, cluck, bKAWWW


I've been there and seen who's there

---Name one you've posted to in the past year, hell, tell us the thread so we can see your genius in action.

....most of them are even stupider
than you are, which is saying a great deal. There is absolutely no
getting through to people like you because you cannot THINK and you
will not listen. All you know how to do is to create conflict and to
demagogue. You NEVER respond to a point, you merely recharacterize
everything said into a strawman to beat down. Yeah...no thanks, Spuds
McDip***...I am not going to waste my time wading into a cesspool of
people like you. It really wouldn't do any good.

-------Good riddance. Move on, play "genius ***" on RMA, afraid to debate on forums specifically created for these types of debates.
Cluck, cluck, bKAWWW.....Ah hahahaha !
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