Re: WOTT: Is Pacifism *really* incompatible with martial arts?

nemo_outis wrote:
Philippe <pboud_01NOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Martial arts as currently practiced have nothing martial about them.




PPS If one can't prepare and train for modern war then there are
millions of folks wasting their time.


I spent over 8 years in the military.. I can tell you with NO
HESITATION that the training is not for war.. it is for battle..



And battles happen where? C'mon, try hard, you can do it.
In the streets.. in back alleys.. in towns.. in houses.. the only difference is scale..


The

only training for war (read nuclear war here) is to hope it doesn't
happen.. to restrict hostilities to 'conventional' warfare, which is
essentially battles.. And the average civilian has pretty much *no*
recourse for training for 'war', since all weapons, even for
conventional warfare, are on or near the 'banned' list.



Jesus H. Christ, man, you're a moron (which would help explain why you joined the military).

Everybody needs a cause... If you look hard enough, you might even find one of your own.. :)
The US has fought how many wars, including ones going on right now in Iraq and Afghanistan, without nukes? Where do you get this crap of restricting war to nuclear war?
Nuclear war, conventional war.. both wars.. and Nuclear war is what everyone is *avoiding* at all cost, since it can't be won by anyone.. too many players..

Conventional war is just that.. conventional, by the current-day non-nuclear weapons.. and you'll notice that even with all the high-tech, it ends up house-to-house..

Oh.. and all the training you state is useless for warfare is actually included in one form or another by virtually every modern military force in existence today. Wonder why...

And, yes, you fucking moron,

You know, you're giving Canadians a bad name..

:)

the US has trained to fight wars, including
nuclear wars, for over a half-century. Why would anyone, even someone as stupid as you, blurt out such nonsense?

Not really.. They train people to fight.. they make preparations for conventional war.. the only nuclear plans they have don't really concentrate on winning.. they concentrate on surviving.. All the plans, all the 'surgical strike', 'first strike', 'counter strike' stuff is making preparations to have a chance at surviving a nuclear war.

No high(ish) level military leader talks about "winning" a nuclear war.. At best, they hope they can pop one or two first, and *then* go right into a conventional war..

Feel free to do some research.. I have

Regards,


P.

If you keep calling me names, I might start taking this personally... And if you feel so strongly about this, come on up.. you're only three hours away.. I'll even give you directions..
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