Re: Is China selling prisoners organs?

<jmdrake_98@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
Well I thank the forefathers for including "unusual" when they barred
"cruel and unusual punishment". I'm sure anything can be rationalized
if you try hard enough.

Given that the harvesting is done postmortem, what is the ethical dilemma?
It certainly doesn't hurt. It's only a 'desecration' of the body if you have
religious qualms about it- and that immaterial to either the subject or his
family- it's already 'shameful'.
Greenpeace must certainly be supportive of the efforts to re-cycle, use our
resources wisely, and the implications for our cetacean brothers.

.....But there's a definite problem when you start
putting a "profit motive" in punishment.

The qualification for capital punishment is immaterial if one knows that the
sentence carries the implication of such harvesting inherent.

There's too much of a
temptation to go down the "abuse" road.

Again, immaterial to the question of harvesting organs for transplant from
executed prisoners.
Even our thirteenth amendment excepts 'punishment' in it's prohibition
against slavery.

And yes, that goes for
convict labor too. I wonder how many Nike's we buy at Walmart
were made by Falun Gong prisoners?

Or have eaten in our public schools, used the woodwork in the courthouse,
observed the uniforms made for the states hospitals, or bought a license
plate for their auto.
All of that is done by slave labor in our prisons.
Not counting the fact that we rent them out to private enterprise at a
non-competitive rate, to include illegal aliens in the prospective labor
pool.

Anyway, we're talking about
China here, a country where you can get killed by the government
for simply having the crazy idea that you're a human being.

You do know about US prisons being used for medical experimentation, don't
you? Prisoners are a perfect control group; just enough civil rights left to
sign them away to incur a 'known hazardous possibility', and cheap.

Chas


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Tookie Williams
    ... >>>You have to understand that in the Navy, the brig is, or ... >>like to add to make the punishment more severe. ... >>And you apparently felt the treatment of prisoners in your ... one that the Navy tried repeatedly to eliminate among those ...
    (soc.retirement)
  • Re: Scalia: Torture Constitutional (NDC)
    ... Scalia ignored this when saying torture isn't "punishment" - ... type prisoners but to U.S. citizens as well. ... I disagree with Scalia, I think the correct interpretation by the courts ... for example the Constitution refers to the ...
    (rec.music.gdead)
  • Re: OT - I may be in the minority
    ... because they compete with jobs on the outside. ... punishment, not _for_ punishment. ... dangerous if prisoners are constantly angry. ... often decades of their lives. ...
    (sci.med.transcription)
  • Re: Scott Peterson savagely beaten in prison
    ... SCOTT PETERSON'S JAILHOUSE BEATING ... Most American prisoners come out of jail with injuries from beatings. ... The guards use prisoners to inflict punishment. ... careful, we will become a nation of Abu Ghraib guards, torturing ...
    (alt.true-crime)
Loading