Re: taiji fajin video


"Oliver T." <olivert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I understand what you're saying here, and I'm a bit divided on it
myself in terms of practical fighting, as I'll explain. However I can
assure you that what you see in the video is not hooey, and it is
nothing close in actuality to what you've probably seen in any other
CMA demonstrations (which *is* hooey). Most CMA practitioners think
they do something like this but they're not even close. The people who
can really do this stuff are very very rare, and he's definitely one
of them. It is not magic or mystical energy, but very unique body
mechanics and years of conditioning specific to this kind of movement.
What it results in is the ability to hit ridiculously hard and do
other highly explosive movements with little or no distance. I've
never met Chen Xiao Wang, but I have been hit by Mike and it's not
something I've ever felt from anyone else. He can move his hand two
inches and it feels like getting hit by a car. Mike has done a lot in
terms of figuring this stuff out and translating it for westerners,
but he would be the first to admit that he's nowhere close to someone
of this level. If he says he'd be afraid to mess with this guy, I
can't imagine what power this guy is capable of.

This is a very real skill, and it opens up opportunities for hitting
and locking with insane power from unexpectedly close distances and
positions. In hypothetical matches against MMA it's difficult to say
what would happen. Perhaps if I met this guy and felt firsthand how
much power he can generate I would have a different opinion, but let's
assume for arguments sake that there are a limited number of guys
around with this kind of ability. Obviously their faces are not immune
to getting punched or kicked, and against an MMA guy there is the
issue of getting the timing and distance for any hit. If they don't
practice MMA-style sparring this wouldn't be so easy to do, but I have
no idea what the Baji badasses practice in terms of competitive
sparring. If we envision them entering competitions as MMA ramps up in
China, then they might be able to surprise people in the same way that
BJJ surprised people in the early UFCs. Then MMA would adapt to find
weaknesses and avoid strengths. I don't think MMA could adapt to learn
this stuff because it's just too hard to learn and takes too many
years of specific body practice. So if it proved consistently
effective that would be a big plus in its favor. The downside is the
practicality of learning it. Unless you've lived all your life in
China under the guidance of someone who really knows this stuff,
you're not going to get good enough to use it against a strong
fighter. As such MMA training seems to me to be more practical, even
if a guy like this could crush your skull with a palm strike. It's
definitely worth checking, if Scary lives close enough to Chen Xiao
Wang to get a demo it would be fun to have him describe it.

Everything you said after "I understand what you're saying here, and I'm a
bit divided on it myself in terms of practical fighting..." is just bull
*** quiche. That is what gives TMA a bad name. There's no force and there's
no quiche. If there were quiche the CIA would be all over it.



Post a video of a fight, post a video of a board break, post a video of a
strike on a pad with a gauge, post anything except bull ***.


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