Re: The Fuhrer Principle



On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:44:18 -0700, "Chas" <chasclements@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>"Badger North" <young_forest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>>>There is no 'the ID'ists'- the term itself makes a distinction from any
>>>particular 'religion'.
>> http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI001_1.html would disagree with
>> you.
>
>Yes- so even the existence of two groups invalidates the idea that there are
>'the ID'ist's'.
>My point exactly.

Oh please. Find me a reference to these non-Christian ID'ists.
Adherents of the Flying Spagetti Monster don't count.

>>>Atheists would like to make it a 'separation of Church from State'
>>>question
>>>(unmentioned in the Constitution in any case).
>>>It isn't.
>> Nah, it's thinly veiled creationism masquerading as science, trying to
>> force itself into highschool science curricula.
>
>The only reason for keeping it out is ideological, not 'scientific'.

So you're saying ID is scientific?

>'Science' chooses not to address the question of Origin at all.

Hey? Only if by "chooses not to address the question of Origin at
all" you mean "is an area of intense research."

>>>ID goes far deeper than simply the creation of life, much less the
>>>expression of intelligence. It's more about the organizational nature of
>>>the
>>>Universe- whether this is all an accident or not.
>> A remarkable, and unintended (I'm sure), parallelism with religion.
>
>Yes; the fact that you don't think that 'religion' is the answer doesn't
>deal with the question at all.

Doesn't matter whether I think religion is the answer. Religion
doesn't belong in a science class, science doesn't belong in a
religion class. Someone wants to be religious, good on 'em, gives
them something to do Sunday mornings.

Once again, ID is creationism, thinly veiled.

Badger Jones
www.youngforest.ca
"Never, under ANY circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night."
.



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