Re: The Fuhrer Principle

"Badger North" <young_forest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>>There is no 'the ID'ists'- the term itself makes a distinction from any
>>particular 'religion'.
> http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI001_1.html would disagree with
> you.

Yes- so even the existence of two groups invalidates the idea that there are
'the ID'ist's'.
My point exactly.

>>Atheists would like to make it a 'separation of Church from State'
>>question
>>(unmentioned in the Constitution in any case).
>>It isn't.
> Nah, it's thinly veiled creationism masquerading as science, trying to
> force itself into highschool science curricula.

The only reason for keeping it out is ideological, not 'scientific'.
'Science' chooses not to address the question of Origin at all.

>>ID goes far deeper than simply the creation of life, much less the
>>expression of intelligence. It's more about the organizational nature of
>>the
>>Universe- whether this is all an accident or not.
> A remarkable, and unintended (I'm sure), parallelism with religion.

Yes; the fact that you don't think that 'religion' is the answer doesn't
deal with the question at all.

Chas


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