Re: End of the year topic.. sort of.. :)


"Badger_s" <Badger_s@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:04:27 GMT, "GreenDistantStar"
> <GreenNOSPAMdistantstar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>> Obviously in the heat of combat, there's not a lot of conscious, logical
>>> thinking going on. The timing is innate by then.
>>
>>Usually...but a degree of anticipation will help too. If you know
>>something
>>is going down soon, surveilling your environment for allies, adversaries,
>>possible weapons, routes of escape etc will buy you a big advantage.
>>
>>Bas Rutten has done some interesting stuff on this, well worth a look.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>GDS
>
> Really? Bas? Where should I look?

Some stuff that Fraser burned for me that I have subsequently lost :( Bas
has produced a lot of stuff so I won't try to guess it...get back to you on
it....

>
> You know the interesting thing about thinking about it as a chess game (I
> think De La Vera has a tape out called "Chess on the Mat"), is that even
> though you're flowing, there is a lot of conscious thought going on.

For sure, but how much is conscious and how much is subconscious is tricky.

> As I mentioned in an email to Charlie (to which he has not replied! <g>),
> working in the grappling range, in guard and mount in tournament bjj, is a
> way to slow down, or tame, or reduce the 'chaotic' nature of fighting that
> existed "pre-contact", or in the 'freefighting' range.

Agreed.

> Certainly there's still a lot going on, but you have more time to pre-plan
> when grappling, and you have the advantage of contact reflexes. You don't
> have to see him move a leg - you can feel it.

Again agree....

> As Trav has so aptly pointed out the best way many have found is to look
> for 'landmarks'. What part of his shoulder you can see; where can you feel
> his legs, where the pressure, where can you make space, etc.
>
> Then you key off of these landmarks. That reduces the chaos even more
> since
> you have a fairly small number of important landmarks and keys to react
> to.
> You know when a certain position starts to come up that you start seeing
> certain positional landmarks, and using these you can react positively and
> forcefully - with assurance, iow.

Trav is pretty much right. It's recognising both visual and non-visual clues
and acting from some reflex and some ingrained training.

It's also about 'seeing what you're given'.

To Joe Six Pack, being caught in a side-headlock doesn't appear to be an
'opportunity', nor does a chest-push from under mount look like an
invitation to a broken arm.

> If you listen to Eddie Bravo narrate his matches you can here him say
> repeatedly '...here I'm just looking to free my right leg so I can hook
> his
> leg and get the twister started'.
>
> That's what I found fascinating about his tape - he pretty accurately
> talks
> you through his matches and his thought processes. By many accounts he's
> one of the more creative thinkers wrt bjj and submission grappling.

I've not been exposed to much of Bravo's stuff, though familiar with some of
it.

Watching really good guys seems to improve my game more than 'mere'
instuctionals. Probably the best instruction you can get is rolling with a
high calibre guy and have him talk his way through your humiliation ;>)

A couple of years back I and a few others were dealt such a lesson by one of
the planet's better grapplers. It went something like this...

"Too late........lost your base now........." <tap>

"...you've let me underhook you......"<tap>

"scoot away from me....too late.....".<tap>

"I have either leg now....."<tap>

You get the picture? :)

GDS


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