Re: End of the year topic.. sort of.. :)
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- Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:04:27 GMT
"Badger_s" <Badger_s@xxxxxxxxx> replied in message
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> In my experience it's almost impossible to apply all but the most
> elementary strategic thinking during the 'free-fighting' range of
> one-on-one fighting. The action is too fast, reactive and 'chaotic', imo.
> Most of the time, I'm thinking 'bridge the gap' and 'attack, attack,
> attack'. ;-)
>
> However, in the standing grappling/clinch fighting range, especially when
> setting up and performing judo throws, I can see where a big part could be
> played by strategic thinking. You're working on getting the opponent to
> step a certain way, trying for the off-balancing move. (I'd think most of
> this would be worked out in the dojo before competition such that during
> actual performance it's more instinctive).
>
> Perhaps one of the judo players here could comment.
>
> Of course in ground-fighting I also see this but not in a 'thinking' sense
> - it is in the 'instinctive' realm, where you're flowing from
> counter-to-counter. Or it should be instinctive. Part of the process
> leading up to this ability would certainly be of a strategic nature,
> though. Or maybe that's a very early and elementary phase of learning. The
> more you 'think' the slower and less flowing you are, I'd guess, causing
> an
> actual inhibition of your physical progress.
Yes, I think you're quite correct, Badge. Within the flow however there is a
strategy that is akin to chess...a 'branching' that most are familiar with.
Understanding the possibilities (breadth) and where they chain to (depth)
gives you an ability to 'see' the board better and know where the game is
going.
> I've mentioned before that I think the better bjj players must have a type
> of innate 3-D perception of the body in space such that they can see
> various alternate moves. For instance, the anaconda and brabo chokes are
> really just turned around aspects of other more common moves.
No doubt.
Going from a
> RNC position to an armbar is also a 'rotation in space' kind of mental
> move. Certainly Eddie Bravo's Twister is an extreme example of this,
> especially when he 'rolls over' to get a better position in some
> variations.
Yup.
> So I think the repeat 'playing' of this strategic game just develops the
> timing that's essential to pulling it off. The best players anticipate and
> flow, preventing the opponent from getting a move locked in.
'Fight as you train' again, eh?
> Obviously in the heat of combat, there's not a lot of conscious, logical
> thinking going on. The timing is innate by then.
Usually...but a degree of anticipation will help too. If you know something
is going down soon, surveilling your environment for allies, adversaries,
possible weapons, routes of escape etc will buy you a big advantage.
Bas Rutten has done some interesting stuff on this, well worth a look.
Cheers
GDS
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