Re: HOW TO MAKE YOUR BODY ALKALINE?

Corey wrote:
> "David L. Burkhead" <dburkhuad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:-JidncLdNfSGceveRVn-uA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Corey wrote:
>>> "David L. Burkhead" <dburkhuad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:nfqdnQcMoeRV9ujenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Wayne Dobson wrote:
>>>>> "David L. Burkhead" <dburkhuad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:toqdnWbVUI2g__HenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Corey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are in a state of denial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are in a state of gullibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is hundreds of studies on ozone and oxygen therapies. It
>>>>>>> would be very easy to verify, just take your head out of the
>>>>>>> sand and
>>>>>>> look. http://www.oxygentherapyexperts.com/library.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked at some of these.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many?
>>>>
>>>> About a dozen. There are only so many hours in the day and so
>>>> many days
>>>> in one lifetime.
>>>>
>>>>>> Of the ones I looked at, not _one_ of them was
>>>>>> anything close to a rigorous study, done to good scientific
>>>>>> practice, documented in sources, and claiming what you claim for
>>>>>> them. Not
>>>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>>>> They fall into one of two categories: a lot of crap that has
>>>>>> nothing to do with science and science that has nothing to do
>>>>>> with your claims.
>>>>
>>>>> You have a scientific basis for this assertion?
>>>>
>>>> The ability to read and compare what is stated in the papers
>>>> with what was claimed uptopic.
>>>>
>>>> A couple of examples: one of the "studies" listed was just a
>>>> description of
>>>> how to perform the "treatment" with no actual experimental results
>>>> presented
>>>> showing anything, let alone that it does what is claimed for it.
>>>> This kind
>>>> of thing has no place whatsoever in any list of "studies" being
>>>> provided as
>>>> evidence that something actually works. Its presence in such a
>>>> list
>>>> is a clear indication of "padding the resume" which is an alert
>>>> that things are not as strong as they would have you believe.
>>>>
>>>> Then there's the study about CsCl use in chemotherapy treatment
>>>> that Corey cited uptopic. Following the link provided and reading
>>>> what's actually there reveals several things. First is that the
>>>> description is a "downstream" change in pH. I.e., that it's a
>>>> _local_ phenomenon rather than
>>>> "making your body alkaline." (Note that the text said that pH
>>>> measured in leg muscle was not influenced by CsCl treatment.)
>>>> Second, no direct connection was made between the pH change pe se
>>>> and the increased uptake of
>>>> chemotherapy agents by the tumor. Maybe the pH was a factor or
>>>> maybe the CsCl itself, irrespective of the local pH, facilitated
>>>> bonds to receptor sites. That question is not answered in the
>>>> quoted text. Third, the therapeutic effect cited was not the
>>>> presence of either the CsCl _or_ pH by
>>>> themselves (contrary to the claim that "making the body alkaline"
>>>> is some great cure-all), but rather by increased uptake of
>>>> conventional chemotherapy
>>>> agents. IOW it would be used as part of a chemotherapy treatment
>>>> program rather than as a replacement. Fourth, a "statistically
>>>> significant" difference is not necessarily a practically
>>>> significant difference. Arbitrarily small differences can be
>>>> "statistically significant" if the variation within each
>>>> population being compared
>>>> is low enough and the sample
>>>> size is large enough. Fifth, lots of studies of various treatments
>>>> show dramatic improvements in mice (and lots more show
>>>> "statistically significant" results) which fail to hold up on the
>>>> way to human
>>>> trials. Same thing with _causing_ cancer (remember saccharine?).
>>>>
>>>> Thus, this paper, while interesting, really doesn't support
>>>> Corey's rather absolute position at all.
>>>
>>> They aren't designed to actually work. They never include DMSO to
>>> transport the Cesium Chloride to the Cancer Cells. Potassium and
>>> other minerals to keep imbalance problems from happening. Its as
>>> though they don't want it to work or they have no sense. In fact I
>>> think they have actually banned DMSO to be researched. It could be
>>> even combined with some forms of Chemo.
>>
>> First you cite it as evidence for your position. Now you claim that
>> it was
>> designed not to work? Backpedal much? Sorry, but you can't have it
>> both ways.
>>
>> So far, you have failed to provide any verifiable evidence for the
>> claims being made. And many of the things that one would expect
>> given what's being
>> claimed (cures for AIDS and Cancer) are not happening. If hundreds
>> of people have been cured of AIDS, we would expect at least a _few_
>> to be out making the talk show circuits. We would expect _some_
>> nation where the FDA
>> and AMA don't have any authority (you know, like every country in the
>> world
>> that isn't the US) to be using these treatments regularly and become
>> essentially AIDS and cancer free as a result. There are countries in
>> Africa. South Africa and Zambia, for example, have over 20% of the
>> adult population infected with HIV. Botswana, more than 37%,
>> Lesotho, more than 28%, Swaziland, more than 38%! Why haven't any
>> of these countries, in desperation if nothing else, tried these
>> cures? Neither the AMA nor the FDA
>> has any authority over there. One of these countries managing to rid
>> itself
>> of AIDS would be something that _couldn't_ be hidden or covered up.
>> Yet none of this stuff happens. If your Medical conspiracy is so
>> powerful as to
>> be able to prevent that, then why are the proponents of these
>> alternate therapies still alive? If they can stop a foreign country
>> from even trying
>> these alternate therapies, or so thoroughly sabotage them so that
>> there isn't even a little bit of improvement seen (and when nearly a
>> third of your
>> adult population is infected with HIV it doesn't take much
>> improvement at all to raise major waves), then surely they can make
>> a handful of activists
>> disappear.
>
>
> Here is a group right here. Don't have to depend on the "controlled
> by evil" information any longer.
>
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/aidscured/

Somebody created a yahoo group. This is supposed to be convincing of
_anything_? I could create a group in five minutes that says AIDS is
created by invisible pink unicorns an prescribing virgin sluts as the cure.

> You need to spend a lot less time foaming at the mouth on News groups
> and much more time investigating or experimenting.

I think you need to spend a little bit of time learning just what is and
isn't evidence of anything.

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