Re: Warp speed Mr. Sulu! Mr. Sulu? Oh Mr. Suuluu??? Get out of that closet Mr. Sulu and take us to warp speed!

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:11:19 -0800, Steve Perry
<perry1966spamstopper@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>In article <HHq9f.30878$ol.30618@xxxxxxxx>, Mark Goldberg
><msgoldberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Chas beat me to the answer.
>>
>> You are comparing us by virtue of some shame mechanism as opposed to
>> the pride we should be feeling, having become the most tolerant of
>> societies to a fault; many a fault.
>
>Both you and Chas need more practice reading. The question came up as
>to why an actor might not want to come out of the closet and admit that
>he is homosexual.
>
>The kind of comments made here prove the point that it is still an iffy
>idea. People still use such measures to judge, and if you don't see
>that, you aren't from around here, or you are willfully blind.
>
>Same deal, Badger -- I didn't say you should teach the mechanics of
>sex, straight or otherwise -- to children. I am indicating that there
>are black people who weren't allowed to sit in the front of the bus or
>at the lunch counter; that there are gay people who have been fired or
>denied jobs because of something they were born with; that women still
>make less money for the same job that men do in a shitload of places.

Well, actually pardon my vituperation. I mainly wanted to know where you
were coming from. So it's an SAG thing? Hollyweird?

I didn't think the gay thing was that entrenched still. We have gay right
amendments here at the Univ. Probably still get hassled, but not openly.
Hell I get hassled as much for being white. Had to go get falsely accused
of something and chat with the EEOC because 'you have to set an example'
They knew I was cool, but traumatized me to show non-bias. A-holes. I mean
it when I say traumatized me - mr sunday school boy scout guy. Fsk.

>Yeah, it's changing, but I grew up with it as the way things were, and
>in places, it's still the way things are.
>
>I didn't say that the U.S. was the worst society because of these
>things. All things considered, it is better than just about anywhere
>else, and you can take all the pride you want in that.
>
>But if you take pride in the fact that somebody can't get a job because
>of racism, homophobia, or sexism, then you're on your own here. We
>don't share those values.

I can't look at a woman the wrong way at work; if she -says- I looked
wrongly I have no defense., I can't object when the gay guy grabs me in the
elevator. I'm talking actual events in my life, bro. So don't tell me about
sexism and homophobia. I've been a victim.

-B

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