Re: dying group?

Good Soldier Schweik wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:37:26 +1100, Krypsis <krypsis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Good Soldier Schweik wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:26:26 +0900, HawaiianEye
<HawaiianEye@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This will come as a surprise to you, Brucie, but not everyone needs to tell the world how famous they are, how many medals they have won, how many important people they know, how famous they are, and so on the way you do. Almost all your posts talk about how famous or smart you are or how many people you know in different places. (Well, to be fair, you do spend a lot of time talking about how stupid other people are, especially ones who don't agree with you.) You enjoy telling people about yourself. You probably need to tell people about yourself. I'm guessing most of it is bullshit. Judging by other people's posts, they do too. Probably everything coming out of your piehole is bullshit.
Well, here is Hawaiian Hi-Ho with the latest news.

Just to get things straight and keep you from lying any more then
necessary tell me again about all the times I have told people how
famous I am and how many medals I have won. Heh? Was it once, twice? a
hundred times? Or only in your fevered imagination?

And a few details about my fame and fortune would be nice .... just to
keep you honest, you know. Lord! If I'm famous I'd sure be glad to
hear about it.

And who have I been calling stupid? As far as I remember I haven't
even called you stupid, strange as that may seem.

But actually posting details isn't really in your line, is it? From
all I see you just like to rant and rave. Obviously logic is not one
of your strong points - and well, a facility with the English language
seems to be lacking also as you seem incapable of posting anything
sensible,

Perhaps a few facts? A few cites? Or just a repeat of your last two
posts? yadda, yadda, yadda.

As I mentioned I do find that your posts, illogical as they may be, do
fill the time between eating breakfast and going to work so I am not
adverse to answer them. But if you can't show a little imagination and
originality to make your posts at least marginally interesting I'll
just have to ignore you. After all if you expect to be noticed you do
have to show some originality... don't you?

Or perhaps, in your tiny group of acquaintances is "yadda, yadda,
yadda" considered titillating conversation? Perhaps it is........
cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
For a person who professes to have been in the journalism business, you certainly do lack some fairly basic English language skills. You are a fine one to point out another posters lack of skill with the English language. Apart from an obvious lack of skill with punctuation and grammar, as evident in this post, you often seem confused as to the correct word usage in a given circumstance. I single out your improper use of the term "adverse" as just one example in this post. There are others!

Writing good, clear and unambiguous reports has been a major part of my 55 year career in the public service. Admittedly, your post is to a newsgroup and, as such, is not subject to the intense scrutiny that each and every one of my reports faces. Regardless, I would expect professional wordsmiths to aim for, and maintain, the highest possible standard in every aspect of their writing.

Since you state that you are American born and raised, I will assume that English, with allowances for Americanisms, is your native language. What cause do you posit as your excuse for the poor standards you display in your usage of your native language?

Since you are not averse to debating idioms, here is one for your consideration.

"People who live in glass houses should not throw stones"

Krypsis

Adverse Ad"verse, a. [OE. advers, OF. avers, advers, fr. L.
adversus, p. p. advertere to turn to. See Advert.]
[1913 Webster]
1. Acting against, or in a contrary direction; opposed;
contrary; opposite; conflicting; as, adverse winds; an
adverse party; a spirit adverse to distinctions of caste.
[1913 Webster]

2. Opposite. "Calpe's adverse height." --Byron.
[1913 Webster]

3. In hostile opposition to; unfavorable; unpropitious;
contrary to one's wishes; unfortunate; calamitous;
afflictive; hurtful; as, adverse fates, adverse
circumstances, things adverse.
[1913 Webster]

Happy were it for us all if we bore prosperity as
well and wisely as we endure an adverse fortune.
--Southey.
[1913 Webster]

Syn: Averse; reluctant; unwilling. See Averse.
[1913 Webster]
-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English
v.0.48


Your complaint regarding puncutation I freely admit - I am careless -
but "adverse" is used correctly. See above.

cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

No, "adverse" was not used correctly by you. Since you are keen to find sites that "seem" to show your usage of the word as correct, I will do likewise. You have committed a "lie by omission, by not including the case where "averse" is used and the reasoning behind it. The three sites I selected are cited below with their respective URLs. To be fair to your heritage, I have selected American sites.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/averse-adverse/
|Averse, Adverse
|It is easy to confuse adverse and averse but their meanings
|are totally different.
|Adverse means unfavorable, contrary or hostile, and can never
|be applied to humans. You often hear it used in the term ‘adverse
|weather conditions’, a phrase which is best avoided in favor of
|‘bad weather’.
|Averse means unwilling or disinclined or loath and is always followed
|by the preposition ‘to’. It applies to a person and is used like this:
|‘He was averse to discussing the conference’. Of course, it would be
|just as easy to say. ‘He didn’t want to discuss the conference’.
|Overuse of both averse and adverse is likely to sound pompous. It’s
|always better to keep it simple.

or

http://www.bartleby.com/64/C003/013.html
|§ 13. adverse / averse
|Who isn’t averse to getting adverse reactions to their ideas? Averse |normally refers to people and means “having a feeling of distaste or |aversion,” as in As an investor I’m averse to risk-taking. People |sometimes mistakenly slip in adverse for averse in these constructions |with to. But adverse normally does not refer to people, rather to |things that are antagonistic or contrary to someone’s interests. Thus |we say We’re working under very adverse (not averse) circumstances and |All the adverse (not averse) criticism frayed the new mayor’s nerves.

or

http://www.ehow.com/how_4501237_use-adverse-averse-correctly.html
|How to Use "Adverse" and "Averse" Correctly
|By Erica Sweeney, eHow Editor
|Misusing the terms "adverse" and "averse" can be quite common. While |"adverse" is the most-used choice, quite often the writer means |"averse." The first step to using these terms correctly is to |understand their meanings and to see them used in a sentence.
|Step1
|Use "adverse" to mean something that is unfavorable, harmful or |possibly hostile. The word is an adjective, so it should be used to |describe a noun or pronoun. Additionally, it is often used to describe |the weather.
|Step2
|Use "adverse" in these instances: The weatherman predicted adverse |weather, in the form of a hurricane; the tax cuts might have an adverse |effect on the economy.
|Step3
|Use "averse" to mean reluctant or opposed. "Averse" is also an |adjective.
|Step4
|Use "averse" in these instances. He is averse to the court’s decision. |She is averse to any changes in the school.


Should I mention your use of "then" in place of "than"?? You cannot excuse that example as a typographical error as it is a frequent occurrence in your writings.
As a professional, you should be loathe to allow your standards to slip. Allowing standards to slip is easy, getting those same standards back up to the lofty heights is extremely difficult.
I find it odd that you have been a professional writer all your life yet the mistakes you make in grammar, word usage and punctuation are so basic! I would castigate the junior operatives in my department for making them and I would not expect to see such basic errors in the reports of operatives with 10 or more years under their belts. Why then are you still making those errors in semi-retirement?


Krypsis


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