rec.knives
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Chas your opinion please
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Looks like time's up
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Looks like time's up
- Looks like time's up
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Old Dagger - maybe German
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Just got a Gerber Crusader
- Re: Ping: Justin
- Ping: Justin
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Old Dagger - maybe German
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: I really miss ya Justin, please please come back *smirk*
- I really miss ya Justin, please please come back *smirk*
- Re: Old Dagger - maybe German
- Re: Working Antler
- Jerry Corbit
- Re: Old Dagger - maybe German
- Re: Chas your opinion please
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Jerry Corbit
- Re: Working Antler
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Working Antler
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Chas your opinion please
- Re: Chas your opinion please
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Working Antler
- Damascus
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Old Dagger - maybe German
- Big Charlie slaps one down.......
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Old Dagger - maybe German
- Re: Chas your opinion please
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Chas your opinion please
- Re: Working Antler
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- The best yoghurt in Chiang Mai...... if not all Thailand!
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Old Dagger - maybe German
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: Chas.... sharpening skiving knives?
- Re: Chas your opinion please
- Re: The best yoghurt in Chiang Mai......
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Chas your opinion please
- Re: Steve Kramer endorses Bob's yoghurt
- Re: Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Not getting the prices you'd like for custom knives?
- Re: Chas.... sharpening skiving knives?
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- {AD} Boer Penknife
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Re: Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Re: Chas.... sharpening skiving knives?
- Re: Chas.... sharpening skiving knives?
- Re: Come on Stevie....... Don't be shy.
- Re: Working Antler
- Chas.... sharpening skiving knives?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Working Antler
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Come on Stevie....... Don't be shy.
- Re: Working Antler
- Guru John 'BladeMaster' McCurry Contact Info?
- Re: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order/wood
- Re: Come on Stevie....... Don't be shy.
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- From: bhartman36@xxxxxxxxx
- Re: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- Re: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
- Leather undies and Steve Kramer
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Working Antler
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Come on Stevie....... Don't be shy.
- Come on Stevie....... Don't be shy.
- Re: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order/wood
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order/wood
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order/wood
- Re: Steve Kramer - the Winner of the 'Whitest Lily White Legs' competition in Chiang Mai!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Steve Kramer endorses Bob's yoghurt
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Steve Kramer endorses Bob's yoghurt
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- From: bhartman36@xxxxxxxxx
- Steve Kramer endorses Bob's yoghurt
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- Re: the downside
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- Re: More on glues
- Re: the downside
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Steve Kramer - the Winner of the 'Whitest Lily White Legs' competition in Chiang Mai!
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- From: bhartman36@xxxxxxxxx
- Re: Knife Repair Problem
- Re: Steve Kramer - the Winner of the 'Whitest Lily White Legs' competition in Chiang Mai!
- Knife Repair Problem
- From: bhartman36@xxxxxxxxx
- FA: A.G. Russell Bowie
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order/wood
- Steve Kramer - the Winner of the 'Whitest Lily White Legs' competition in Chiang Mai!
- Re: the downside
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: The best yoghurt in Chiang Mai......
- Re: The best yoghurt in Chiang Mai......
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Phil Glazer, did you get me email?
- Re: More on glues
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: More on glues
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Re: Cat got ya tongue Justin????
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: More on glues
- Re: the downside
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: The best yoghurt in Chiang Mai......
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: The best yoghurt in Chiang Mai......
- Re: Justin, did you get my email?
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Working Antler
- Re: the downside
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- Re: the downside
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Working Antler
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: the downside
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: the downside
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: the downside
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: the downside
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: the downside
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: More on glues
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: the downside
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: the downside
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: The tremendous trio better take cover
- Re: More on glues
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: the downside
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Justin, did you get my email?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: the downside
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: the downside
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- the downside
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: More on glues
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: More on glues
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- The best yoghurt in Chiang Mai......
- Re: Cat got ya tongue Justin????
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: More on glues
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: The tremendous trio better take cover
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- The tremendous trio better take cover
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Cat got ya tongue Justin????
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Steve Kramer and Google
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Sharpening SS Knife, nicks in the edge
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Stropping the ole mulligan
- Steve Kramer and Google
- Re: Cat got ya tongue Justin????
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Cat got ya tongue Justin????
- Re: please Help me id this big blade
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Locust as a handle material???
- Locust as a handle material???
- Re: Just when the group was getting back to normal.....
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: PING: Pickled Drunk, Herbert Stent, Emile Horn, Chu Suhui, Dark, Steeve, and Mr.Rogers
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Just when the group was getting back to normal.....
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: please Help me id this big blade
- Re: please Help me id this big blade
- Re: Just when the group was getting back to normal.....
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Just when the group was getting back to normal.....
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: please Help me id this big blade
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- please Help me id this big blade
- Pike, did you get my email?
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Just when the group was getting back to normal.....
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Report: new Schrade Muskrat Trapper
- Re: Report: new Schrade Muskrat Trapper
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Report: new Schrade Muskrat Trapper
- From: Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)
- Report: new Schrade Muskrat Trapper
- From: Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)
- Report: new Schrade Muskrat Trapper
- From: Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Phil Glazer, did you get me email?
- Re: PING: Pickled Drunk, Herbert Stent, Emile Horn, Chu Suhui, Dark, Steeve, and Mr.Rogers
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- PING: Pickled Drunk, Herbert Stent, Emile Horn, Chu Suhui, Dark, Steeve, and Mr.Rogers
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Re: Welcome back Justin......
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Justin, did you receive my email?
- Re: Hey Greg!!
- Re: Hey Greg!!
- Re: Hey Greg!!
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Hey Greg!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: More on glues
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Re: More on glues
- Re: FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- Steve Kramer did you get my email?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Trolls
- Re: Just when the group was getting back to normal.....
- Re: Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Re: Welcome back Justin......
- Re: Steve Kramer No Show
- Re: JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Re: JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Re: Steve Kramer No Show
- Welcome back Justin......
- Re: Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Just when the group was getting back to normal.....
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Re: JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: Steve Kramer No Show
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Steve Kramer No Show
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Steve did you get my email?
- Re: Steve Kramer No Show
- Re: Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: Randall Model 1 on order
- Randall Model 1 on order
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Re: More on glues
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Re: Etchant for steel?
- Etchant for steel?
- Re: Steve Kramer No Show
- JUSTIN???? Missing in action.
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Steve Kramer No Show
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Arrggh, avast me hearties!
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: New list a flop???
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Sharpening SS Knife, nicks in the edge
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: jewelry as armor
- Re: jewelry as armor
- Re: For the new guys to the group...Troll list.
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: saber vs cutlass
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: For the new guys to the group...Troll list.
- Re: jewelry as armor
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: jewelry as armor
- saber vs cutlass
- Re: Sharpening SS Knife, nicks in the edge
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Sharpening SS Knife, nicks in the edge
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: jewelry as armor
- Re: Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: stropping kitchen knives
- Re: Steve, did you get my email?
- Re: For the new guys to the group...Troll list.
- For the new guys to the group...Troll list.
- stropping kitchen knives
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Steve, did you get my email?
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Alvin, did you get my e-mail?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: New list a flop???
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- jewelry as armor
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: New list a flop???
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: Soon we'll have posts for all of you. Bwahahahahahahahahahah
- Re: More on glues
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: New knives! :)
- Soon we'll have posts for all of you. Bwahahahahahahahahahah
- From: Alvin @ EXAMPLE.com
- Re: More on glues
- From: Alvin @ EXAMPLE.com
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- From: Alvin @ EXAMPLE.com
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- From: Alvin @ EXAMPLE.com
- Re: New list a flop???
- From: Chas.....@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: New list a flop???
- From: Chas.....@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- From: Chas.....@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- From: Chas.....@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- From: Chas.....@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: New list a flop???
- Re: FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- Re: New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- New Leatherman Sheath for me!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: More on glues
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- New list a flop???
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: New must-see illegal alien invasion graphic at Rense.com
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- AD: New Blade Tech Knives!
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: More on glues
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Kramer is advertising on new rec.knives
- Re: FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- Re: Kramers mea culpa........
- Re: Kramers mea culpa........
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: PIXEL ADVERTISING IS HOT
- Re: FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: More on glues
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: More on glues
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- FREE lunch for Steve Kramer
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: More on glues
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: Other materials to make knives out of
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: More on glues
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Here's the HSS blanks I found
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: More on glues
- Other materials to make knives out of
- More on glues
- PIXEL ADVERTISING IS HOT
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Here's the HSS blanks I found
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Robert Johnson Fails to show up..... Surprise!
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Re: Robert Johnson Fails to show up..... Surprise!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Re: I'm sorry says Steve.
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: I'm sorry says Steve.
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Kramers mea culpa........
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: I'm sorry says Steve.
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Robert Johnson Fails to show up..... Surprise!
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Trolls. Feed. Not.
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Kramers mea culpa........
- Re: I'm sorry says Steve.
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Kramers mea culpa........
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Justin has his wings clipped.
- Re: Kramers mea culpa........
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: PING Chas back up again
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: anybody fence?
- New member w/HSS questions
- Re: Kramers mea culpa........
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: PING Chas
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Justin has his wings clipped.
- Re: Justin has his wings clipped.
- Re: New knives! :)
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Robert Johnson Fails to show up..... Surprise!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: New knives! :)
- I'm sorry says Steve.
- Re: http://photoenvisions.tripod.com/
- Steve actually apologises......
- Robert Johnson Fails to show up..... Surprise!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Kramers mea culpa........
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: anybody fence?
- PING Chas
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: New knives! :)
- Re: New knives! :)
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- New knives! :)
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- http://photoenvisions.tripod.com/
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Justin has his wings clipped.
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Ping: Chas...
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer (aka boot mouth)
- Re: Guys. Please help the old fart Kramer.
- Re: Guys. Please help the old fart Kramer.
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Attention knife memebers
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Ping: Chas...
- Re: Riveting kydex
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Hey Alvin....
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer (aka boot mouth)
- Re: Guys. Please help the old fart Kramer.
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: Riveting kydex
- Re: Daily joke for my mate steve Kramer
- Re: Daily joke for my mate steve Kramer
- Re: LINK SORTED. Kramer and Justin Lovers.
- Re: Invitation
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: Invitation
- Re: Invitation
- Re: Invitation
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Invitation
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Invitation
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Hey Alvin....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Say Hey Charles
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- LINK SORTED. Kramer and Justin Lovers.
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: Chas...
- Re: anybody fence?
- Say Hey Charles
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer (aka boot mouth)
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Guys. Please help the old fart Kramer.
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer (aka boot mouth)
- Re: Daily joke for my mate steve Kramer
- Re: Here Justin.....Here boy
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: Here Justin.....Here boy
- Re: Daily joke for my mate steve Kramer
- Re: Say Hey Steve Kramer (aka boot mouth)
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Here Justin.....Here boy
- Re: Slate hones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Chas...
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Here Justin.....Here boy
- Re: Guys. Please help the old fart Kramer.
- Re: Here Justin.....Here boy
- Say Hey Steve Kramer (aka boot mouth)
- Say Hey Steve Kramer (aka boot mouth)
- Daily joke for my mate steve Kramer
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: Dragonslayers &c
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: Stop This Shit!!!
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- Dragonslayers &c
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: identify maker?
- Re: useful update on the new knives or at least one
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: identify maker?
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- How to stop annoying off topic shite.
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: Guys. Please help the old fart Kramer.
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Say Hey Steve Kramer
- Guys. Please help the old fart Kramer.
- Re: Stop This Shit!!!
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Neticate
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: Riveting kydex
- Re: A joke for Justin
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Slate hones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Another 'Kombat Klassic' from the archives....
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Chas...
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Stop This Shit!!!
- 'Justin' is back!!!
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Chas...
- [AD] Three new Damascus Drop Point Knives
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Here Justin.....Here boy
- Re: Stop This Shit!!!
- Re: anybody fence?
- A joke for Justin
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Chas...
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Riveting kydex
- Re: Riveting kydex
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Here Justin.....Here boy
- Re: Stop This Shit!!!
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Stop This Shit!!!
- Re: Riveting kydex
- Re: Neticate
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: Neticate
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Neticate
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Riveting kydex
- Re: identify maker?
- Re: questions
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Chas...
- Streamlight, Maglite, Coast
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Neticate
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Neticate
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Chas...
- Re: Neticate
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Slate hones
- Ping: Chas...
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Neticate
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Neticate
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: questions
- Re: Slate hones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Old steve just keeps baiting the hook and the boys keep biting.
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: Slate hones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Slate hones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Slate hones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: I decided to look at survival knives.
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Self Defense
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: another good newsgroup
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Slate hones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Stop the bullsh*t
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: questions
- Re: questions
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: identify maker?
- Re: questions
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Stop the bullsh*t
- Re: questions
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: questions
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: Slate hones
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Slate hones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: anybody fence?
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: anybody fence?
- Re: questions
- Slate hones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Stop the bullsh*t
- anybody fence?
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- Re: Please Mr. Kramer let Justin out to play.......
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: the other day....
- Re: the other day....
- Re: Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- KRAMER KONFUSED BUT CAUGHT OUT AGAIN
- Re: Thailand gets new cyber crime law
- Re: Stop the bullsh*t
- Re: A reason for a moderated new group
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- A reason for a moderated new group
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Stop the bullsh*t
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Stop the bullsh*t
- Re: Thailand gets new cyber crime law
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: questions
- Re: questions
- Re: questions
- Re: Please Mr. Kramer let Justin out to play.......
- Re: Thailand gets new cyber crime law
- Re: Thailand gets new cyber crime law
- Re: Thailand gets new cyber crime law
- Thailand gets new cyber crime law
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: questions
- Re: questions
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Please Mr. Kramer let Justin out to play.......
- Re: questions
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: questions
- Re: the other day....
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: the other day....
- Declaration of Intent to Clean Up rec.knives
- Re: the other day....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: questions
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Self Defense
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: another good newsgroup
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: What's the smell
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- Re: Justin.....
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: identify maker?
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: identify maker?
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: identify maker?
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: questions
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Justin.....
- Re: Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- Re: How about some of your RK'ers commenting on this
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: the other day....
- Re: Water stone vs Arkansas
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: questions
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: questions
- Re: What's the smell
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: another good newsgroup
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: What's the smell
- another good newsgroup
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: What's the smell
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- What's the smell
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: identify maker?
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: __measure__ sharpness ?
- Re: Self Defense
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Justin.....
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Justin.....
- Re: Justin.....
- Steve Kramer 'Ex-Pat Extraordinaire'
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: __measure__ sharpness ?
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- Re: Self Defense
- Self Defense
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: My apologies to Rec.knives
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Justin.....
- My apologies to Rec.knives
- Re: Justin.....
- Re: Justin.....
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Justin.....
- identify maker?
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Oh dear Kramer shot on the mouth........ Again.
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: the other day....
- Re: the other day....
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: How about some of your RK'ers commenting on this
- Re: How about some of your RK'ers commenting on this
- Re: How about some of your RK'ers commenting on this
- How about some of your RK'ers commenting on this
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Kramer and his 'Clair Vickers' sock puppet.
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Re: Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Re: Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Rough Rider Bowie knife?
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- the other day....
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Water stone vs Arkansas
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: vigilantes rule!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: questions
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: questions
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Tops tracker ... dunno ...
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Hi Lachlan
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Tops tracker ... dunno ...
- Re: vigilantes rule!
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Tops tracker ... dunno ...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Tops tracker ... dunno ...
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: Tops tracker ... dunno ...
- Re: Cutlery Steel in Physics Today
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: Shaping micarta?
- Re: why Heinlein
- Tops tracker ... dunno ...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: Here is the scabbard- an easy way to make a sheath
- Re: Cutlery Steel in Physics Today
- Re: Cutlery Steel in Physics Today
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Cutlery Steel in Physics Today
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Cutlery Steel in Physics Today
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Look what I found today!!
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- Re: Here is the scabbard- an easy way to make a sheath
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- A 'dangerous' book for boys? (MSNBC)
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Arkansas stones
- Re: why Heinlein
- Here it is.. the scabbard.
- Re: Here is the scabbard- an easy way to make a sheath
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- Here is the scabbard- an easy way to make a sheath
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: why Heinlein
- Drilling holes on HSS hacksaw blade
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: why Heinlein
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: sword sharpening
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Arkansas stones
- sword sharpening
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Here they are- the baby and the monster
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: Arkansas stones
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Arkansas stones
- Re: why Heinlein
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: why Heinlein
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: why Heinlein
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Belt sanders
- Re: Arkansas stones
- Re: Belt sanders
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Belt sanders
- Re: California carry laws
- Re: Belt sanders
- Re: Hey Chas.....
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Belt sanders
- Re: Arkansas stones
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Arkansas stones
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: How to craft a katana???
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Hey Chas.....
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: New Firearms/Guns & Weapons Forum
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: Presenting..... "Dadley - The Sequel!"
- Re: __measure__ sharpness ?
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- Re: I love my SRK
- Re: why Heinlein
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- So I bough a HSS power hacksaw blade...
- Re: why Heinlein
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: I was cycling home tonight
- Re: Arkansas stones
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: I was cycling home tonight
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Sad old Kramer. Ignore if you dare......
- Re: Arkansas stones
- Re: Public apology, about the gun question.
- From: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
