Re: Steiner Hunting Z 3.5-10 x 50 Scope



John Barsness in his book Optics for the Hunter rates Leupold and Zeiss as
the two best scopes in the world, and he tested everything imaginable from
Tasco and Bushnell to Schmidt and Bender and Leica.

Leupold does manufacture Steiner scopes, as well as Leica. With all factors
considered, such as sturdiness, brightness, lens coatings, erector
mechanisms, dependability in freezing and tropical conditions, Leupold is
superior to Steiner. Just because a scope is made in Germany doesn't mean
squat. I'll put my Leupold LPS's up against any German scopes for optical
quality, sturdiness, brightness, ability to hold zero after rough usage, and
waterproof construction. And I've used several models of the Schimdt &
Bender and Zeiss scopes. Friend of mine bought a Swarovski, an Austrian
scope, and my 3.5-14x50 Leupold LPS is far superior to his. Swarovski
advertises on almost every program on the Outdoor channel, so it must be
great. Right? Nonsense.

Most German scopes are terribly overpriced, because you have to pay all that
VAT and pay for your socialist economies. (20% of the cost of a Mercedes is
nothing but labor-generated obligations, what with all those Turks getting
free medical care and a fat pension. I've owned three.) (Mercedes's, not
Turks.) Here in the US, we pay a bit of sales tax. That's why Zeiss and
Leica and Steiner are manufacturing their equipment in Portugal and the US.
It's cheaper. That's why Nikon is building optics in
Thailand. It's cheaper.

I have a Leica rangefinder made in Portugal. May be German optics, but it's
little Portuguese guys who are building them.

Most European scopes are more fragile than Leupold, with the notable
exception of Zeiss, but each Zeiss scope that comes off the line has
undergone a terrible battering during the company's test program. They have
to be good, after being subjected to all that abuse.

And Steiner can't hold a candle to Leica, particularly in the bino
department.

I'll take Leupold any day, as far as scopes are concerned.

I will concede that German-made Leica binos are the very best, though.
They're still terribly overpriced.


"Wolfgang Kemper" <wkemper@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:dr5lk5$657$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> May Leupold would love to own Steiner but it is private owned since 1947
> by the Steiner Family in Germany.
>
> The quality (also the price) are outstanding and no match for Leupold.
> Leupolds are really good quality and if you look for a scope which will
> serve you for <10 Years it is the right choice.
> If you have higher demands on this piece of equipment you have to go for
> Zeiss,Steiner,Schmidt&Bender.
>
> If you hunt at night, as many hunters do in Germany, you will figure out
> what the difference is.
> If you hunt during daytime and short to medium distances you better save
> the money. You will not able to tell the difference.
>
> Just my 2c
>
>
>
>
>
> Fred Moore wrote:
> > Steiner scopes are built by Leupold. You could have saved your money
and
> > bought an American scope.
> > "Ira W. Cotton" <Cotton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:43d113c2$0$93720$540ea2cf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >>I have a like-new Steiner riflescope for sale. Cost new in the $1000
> >
> > range,
> >
> >>awesome optics. Private offers invited before I put it on eBay.
> >>Cotton@xxxxxxxxxx
.



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