Re: Barony of Slane (was Re: Closure of Irish State Heraldic Museum)

On Nov 3, 12:14 am, Sean J Murphy <sjbmur...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Graham Milne wrote:
If you can't get it right about the Barony of Slane, how can we rely on
your other opinions?

One strike and I'm out, eh? Well, let's wait for my fuller report on the
Barony of Slane before writing me off completely.

Sean Murphy


A Sheáin, a Chara,

Irrespective of whether this "Barony of Slane" exists or not and I
venture that it does not, it was wholly inappropriate for the Chief
Herald of Ireland to issue a Grant of Arms with supporters etc to Mr.
Woods.

Besides the Arms granted to the President of Ireland, supporters
should not be granted to any individual for as to do so, suggests that
something akin to the British order of precedence exists in our
Republic. This may well be acceptable in the various parts of the
United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland, but not so in
Ireland. Indeed, even the most junior of civil servant in Ireland
knows and fully appreciates that such is a nonsense in our Republic.

This is but one example of the fanciful notions of its functions and
powers that crept into the Office of the Chief Herald from the early
1980s onwards - it's simply embarrassing to say the least. To avoid
any repeat of this utter nonsense, the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006
clearly set out what could be granted and what was to be totally
avoided i.e. trappings of nobility and monarchy.

In fact, it may be the case that anybody puporting to act on the
authority of the Government of Ireland as per the Letters Patent and
granting supporters in recognition of "feudal baronies" or "manorial
lordships" may have acted in a manner which renders such a grant
worthless - irrespective of the pre-May 2005 problem. Certainly when
there is a legislative mechanism introduced to rectify the problem of
the pre-May 2005 grants, these grants simply may not capable of being
included.

Interesting times ahead for grantees with "baronial" supporters as
seeking any redress from the State could even be more costly than
their baronial purchases.

Caveat emptor!!!!

Kindest regards


Michael Merrigan
www.familyhistory.ie


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