Re: Burkes International REegister of Arms

In article <1144547541.844157.126910@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, The Man
says...


Guy Stair Sainty wrote:
In article <1143929589.916344.26220@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, The Man
says...

Can anyone provide the names of some good books, in English of course,
that explain the whole Two Sicilies situation?

My research has revealed that numerous "Chivalric Orders" charge fees
(passage fees, dues, entrance fees, oblations, etc)

Does either of the Two Sicilies "heirs" require such "fees" or are the
awards freely given for past services/family position?

Neither Constantinian order should be given for services; the Order is a
religious-military (i.e. religious-chivalric) confraternity, and membership
imposes obligations of service and religious practice.

The senior line does not demand any fee; aside from 100 euros to cover the
expenses of the secretariat, drawing up the diploma, etc, but this is requested
on a voluntary basis. The junior line Order does require its members
to pay a fee, which has been reported as varying from $1000 - $25,000.

The senior line requests that its members support Catholic institutions - so for
example the North American knights are expected to support the American
Committee for the Holy Family Hospital, Bethlehem, an institution of the Order
of Malta, which is a US 501 (c) iii corporation. Last week the Order's Italian
members went on a pilgrimage to Monte San Angelo, led by the Grand Prior, Dario
cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, and of course each participant paid his or her own
costs. The senior line Order does not attempt to raise directlyt large sums as
it does not have an hospitaller mission, but a religious and spiritual one;
recognixing that donors have a finite amount of funds for such purposes and tht
many are knights of Malta already contributing to the hospitaller and
humanitarian work of that Order, prefers to make other non-financial demands of
its members (primarily participation in its spiritual and religious activities).

The junior line branch British and Irish delegationb states on its web site that
it has given Euros millions to charities; but it is not itself a registered
charity and has not published accounts detailing how these funds
are collected and distributed.

Nonetheless, The Delegate of this Order in 2004 on an Irish radio programme
stated: "we give over two million euros... joint delegation between Great
Britain and Ireland whereby we have given millions of Euros... How much do you
promise...have you promised to give them? {in reference to a charity ton which
funds had been promised]
{the delegate] We will be giving them in the same way as we do most of our
charities. Tens of thousands of Euros.
[Interviewer] Tens of thousands?
[Delegate] If you take the British, you know, delegation of British and Irish
delegation, we have given in the last year over one million Euros to charitable
causes.
[interviewer] it was millions a few minutes ago, where does the money come from?
Where does the money come from?
[delegate] It comes from our members. And if you look at 113 members in Great
Britain and Ireland that?s roughly, if you take the million...
Just in the past year... That is almost 9,000 Euros per person."

These are impressive sums and would make this by far the most generous Catholic
Charity operating in the UK.


--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm
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