Re: Jan Libourel busts the .45 pistol/Moro Myth
- From: JLG <jlgeag@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:07:41 +0000 (UTC)
On Sep 5, 5:54 pm, browninghighpow...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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The debate over 9mm vs. 45 will always rage and no one will ever
win. Certainl BHP will not change anyone's mind with his arguments
(start with the conclusion and then spew anecdotal "facts" about
articles not currently available and "some guy at the gun range".)
Bottom line is that no one will ever win, because there are two many
variables. Yes, a smaller object travelling faster will penetrate
more than a a larger heavier slower object, eg, a 9mm will generally
penetrate more than a 45 acp. For proof of this, see
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm (This website rocks, BTW, I
highly recommend the buick of truth tests for fun reading, you can
learn a lot more about what works and what doesn't than you ever will
from BHP's ramblings - thanks George in Las Vegas for turning me on to
this site)
But that is not the only variable responsible for making animals or
people fall down when shot. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
Wound channel can make a lot of difference as any bowhunter can tell
you and we all know shot placement is king.
For example, when you shoot a deer broadside with a 30.06 and the
bullet goes through and through, the deer did not absorb all the
energy of the bullet. I have done this on a small hill country white
tail that walked practically underthe tree stand I was in, and he ran
about 70 yards. Same goes for a bad guy. That rapid release of energy
is a big contributor to neurological shock. When you shoot a deer
quartering toward you with a 30-30, and you recover the bullet inside
the animal, as I have also done on a white tail, you know he got all
the energy there was. That's a lot. You can tell it's the shock that
killed them when they drop instantly like a switch flipped off,
straight down.
Me? I am partial to 45's. I shoot them well, they have plenty of
energy and make big wound channels, and I am comfortable with the
penetration of a round that goes through seven 3/4 inch pine boards.
(See above cite to box o' truth URL) I don't think that the one extra
board that the 9mm gets through is enough to worry about, or means
that the nine will penetrate a helmet at 125 yards that a 45 won't at
25 yards- sorry BHP, I don't buy it, I call BS on that one. That
said, I would also be comfortable relying on a partner with a 9mm if
he shoots it well. If we ever need to kill the eighth board, I'll let
him take the shot.
JLG
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