Re: Warning on gunbroker seller Magnum1
- From: "handsup" <handsup@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:20:29 +0000 (UTC)
"Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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# On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:35:25 +0000 (UTC), "handsup"
# <handsup@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
#
# > ...
# Sometimes that is the case, sometimes it isn't. Regardless of who
# gets the weapon first, somebody has to pay shipping so that is always
# a factor in the price. After all the gun fairy doesn't just drop off
# weapons to ya now does he? Or ya got a special deal with UPS you'd
# like to turn everyone on to?
If a new firearm has to shipped from a dealer in state A to me in State B,
then someone is paying for double shipping aren't they? Additionally, if one
is in a situation to place a large order from a distributor, shipping
charges are often waived.
#
# When I buy out of state I usually don't pay any sales tax & my local
# friendly gun shop doesn't charge me any either when doing the
# transfer. I'll usually only purchase via the net what my local
# dealer, I only use one, either doesn't have what I want in stock (a
# lot of stuff) or wants to charge me even more because of the ordering
# process. I'll check locally, do the laying of hands and then price
# shop via the net on gunbroker.com, gunsamerica.com, and
# auctionarms.com if with the transfer fee & shipping the local guy is
# cheaper he gets my biz, if not he still makes $20 for doing the
# paperwork. Pretty fast & easy $20.
If a customer is going to come to me and paw my inventory and pick my brains
and then save $10 buying out of state they aren't a very loyal or worthwhile
customer. Does a dealer value a window shopper who uses him to benchmark
pricing and throws him a twenty now and then? Is he going to jump in with
support when that new Lorcin breaks? Is he going to give a break on the
price of that new Jennings because of a long established relationship? Why
should he give good price, or service if he knows he'll be nickeled and
dimed to death?
For that "fast and easy" $20 he has to: deal with your seller and you, and
the FBI and possible state and municipal authorities, handle about 45
minutes of paperwork, take possession of and responsibility for the firearm,
assume liability for what you and the seller do with the firearm pretty much
forever, collect and report sales tax to the state, retain records forever,
and pay all his overhead. His reward for that is being posted on the web as
a guy who doesn't report sales tax.
If neither customer nor dealer are declaring sales tax, I would speculate
that one or both are breaking state and federal laws. In some states the
purchaser has the same responsibility to pay the tax as the seller does to
collect it.
A knowledgeable subject matter expert can add a lot of value to the purchase
of a firearm. When one places price over value, service, quality and
craftsmanship, you get W*l-m*rt. And then you end up buying three $50
p.o.s., slave labor made, job destroying, DVD players instead of one quality
unit for $100.
Don't forget to hire the cheap lawyer for the tax evasion case.
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