Re: Reloading 44 special to maximum values
- From: Markus Romanoff <romanoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:26:33 +0000 (UTC)
....for the .44 Special afficionados in the audience.
For large frame guns: Lyman 429421 over 10.0 grains of Winchester 540
for 900 fps (3") to 1030 fps (7 1/2") and excellent accuracy
For the S&W 696: the Nosler 200 grain HP over 8.0 grains of Unique for
a little over 900 fps -- dandy accuracy and thump from the snubby.
For light target work and short range vermin perforation: the Lee 212
grain wadcutter over 3.8 grains of Red Dot for about 650 fps.
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..44 loads
Sat Oct 2 21:39:02 1999
My loads for my 24/624 are a 250 gr. swc pushed by 7.5 grs. of unique
and a 180 gr. jhp pushed by 16 grs. of 2400. I only use the unique
loads in my 696 and rossi 720.
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2 of my favorites
Tue Nov 2 12:10:55 1999
In .44 Special, I like 10.0 grains of Winchester 540 underneath the
Keith 250 SWC (429421) for about 1000 fps.
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Wed Nov 3 00:46:51 1999
7.5 grains Unique and a 240 gr. SWC in .44 S&W SPL.
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..44 Spl. load
Sun Nov 21 16:17:27 1999
I noticed that National Bullet Co. offers a 190 Gr. cast wadcutter
(full WC, not an SWC) for the .44. Has anyone had any experience with
this? I'm considering this as a mild target load in my S&W 624. If
anyone has any data available (preferably using Unique or Bullseye) it
would be much appreciated.
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Lyman used to make their....
Sun Nov 21 17:55:14 1999
....#429348 full WC with a nominal weight of 180 grains. Their manual
#43 shows Bullseye 4.0 to 6.8 gr. Unique 8 to 11.5 gr. Start 10% lower
and work up to the load you find shoots best using the National 190
gr. bullet.
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My 624's plinking load...
Sun Nov 21 20:31:50 1999
....is the Lee 200 grain cast Wadcutter over 5.0 grains of 231. The Lee
is a 6-cavity mold, really dumps 'em out. Joe.
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..44 Special WC loads
Sun Nov 21 23:40:12 1999
As Joe mentioned below, the Lee .44 wadcutter is a fine bullet. The
best load I've found to date is 3.8 grains of Red Dot (about 650 fps).
4.0 grains of Bullseye is also a good accurate load, as is 4.5 grains
of W231. I tried 5.0 grains of Unique, but in my guns, found this
combination to be inconsistant.
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..44 Spl. WC bullet seating question
Thu Nov 25 20:09:39 1999
Last week, I received excellent loading information from the gentlemen
at this site for a 190 Gr. .44 Spl. caliber WC (full wadcutter) bullet
that I want to experiment with. The question I neglected to ask was
how should I seat this bullet....flush with the case mouth with a
moderate crimp (as with a .38 WC), or should I crimp in the groove,
allowing about 1/8" of the bullet to protrude from the case. I will be
using 4.0 Gr. of Bullseye as recommended.
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The best answer is ....
Thu Nov 25 21:38:50 1999
...."Yes." In other words, load some of each, shoot them and determine
which is more accurate. I suspect that a tight crimp in the bullet's
crimping groove will produce the better groups, but the only way to be
sure is to try both.
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Sam in VA
..44 special loads
Mon Dec 13 06:51:22 1999
I just picked up my new (old) S&W 3rd model hand ejector on Saturday
(I really hate that one gun a month law). Ordered a caliber change kit
for my Dillon on Friday. On Sunday I picked up 1000 240 grain SWC and
500 185 grain wadcutters. Now I need some input from you all on loads.
I need a general purpose/practice load using 240 grain SWC, and a
light paper punching load using 185 grain full wadcutters. Any help?
Remember this gun was made in 1939, and I don't want to wear it out
prematurely. Thanks in advance to all you .44 Spl fans.
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44 Special loads
Mon Dec 13 07:02:35 1999
For lighter loads with the 240 grain bullet, Elmer Keith's load of 5
grains of Bullseye has worked for me. 5.3 grains of either Win. 231 or
HP-38 is also good.
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44 special loads
Mon Dec 13 08:42:40 1999
These work good in my hand ejectors. I used ww case and Federal 150
primers with 7.1 grns of IMR 800X and a Lyman 429421 bullet. This load
is approximated at 800 fps. The other load I have used a lot is in a
ww case, Winchester large pistol primers, 7.1 grns of HS6, with the
same Lyman 429421 bullet. This load is approximated at 700 fps. These
have been accurate and comfortable to shoot in my guns.
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..44 Special loads
Mon Dec 13 09:22:23 1999
First off, congratulations on acquiring a fine revolver! A perenial
favorite for .44 Special is Lyman's 429421 (250 Keith SWC) over 6.5
grains of Unique for about 750 fps. This load is typically very
accurate. Another good one is 5.0 grains of W231 under the same
bullet, for about the same speed (this one is generally a little
cleaner than the Unique load).
I've never worked with 185 grain WC's, but I have done quite a bit
with Lee's 210 grain WC in .44 Special. The best load I've found to
date is 3.8 grains of Red Dot. Very accurate with a velocity of about
630 fps, this load makes an outstanding short-range small-game load.
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Re: .44 special loads
Mon Dec 13 12:30:12 1999
I use 4.8 grains of HP-38 with 240 grain wadcutter for a little over
700 fps and is very accurate.
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Mon Dec 13 14:32:10 1999
As to loads, my favorites(in currently owned M624 and M24) with 240gr
SWC are 6.6 gr Unique, 5.6 gr WW231 and 4.5gr Bullseye. All are
pleasantly mild. I plan to use same in the 1926 Model.
I expect you'll see a 2 to 3 inch difference in the point of impact
with the 240 versus the 185 grain bullets. I think the 240s will shoot
to point of aim while the 185s will be a bit low.
More Favorite .44 Special Loads
William
A real accurate load in my 3" is..
Thu Mar 30 19:29:17 2000
.... 4.3gr HP-38 240 SWC. Also use Federal 200gr. Hydrashoks for
defense loads. Shoots great! As to the strength? didn't matter. I have
a mdl 29 to hot rod.
Rob
W296 in .44spl
Fri Apr 7 10:35:33 2000
Does anyone have any data using W296 in the .44spl? I have quite a few
44spl cases but only W296 powder.
PACO
Been shooting Keith's 269 gr cast over 20 grains 296
Fri Apr 7 22:01:04 2000
for years and about 1200 fps out of my Colt clone 44 Uberti
Regulator....paco
Glen
follow-up...
Fri Apr 7 19:11:03 2000
17.0 grains of H-110 in a .44 Special case, underneath the Lyman
429421 250 grain SWC gave 906 fps (3"), 1025 fps (4 5/8") and 1049 fps
(6"). W296 and H-110 are commonly viewed as being virtually identical.
This load should be safe in any large frame .44 (not for the Charter
Arms Bulldog).
LOADS FOR THE .44 SPECIAL
BRASS: REMINGTON .44 SPECIAL BARREL LENGTH: 6 1/2"-7 1/2"
BULLET: 240 GRAIN SWC CHRONOGRAPH: OEHLER MODEL 35P
LOAD MV
6.5 gr. WW231 875
5.5 gr. WW452AA 850
6.0 gr. WW452 900
7.5 gr. 800X 852
8.0 gr. 800X 886
6.5 gr. Unique 852
7.5 gr. Unique 975
7.5 gr. Herco 882
8.0 gr. Herco 982
9.0 gr. HS-6 786
5.0 gr. Bullseye 757
5.5 gr. Bullseye 854
6.0 gr. Bullseye 917
14.5 gr. H4227 824
15.5 gr. H4227 868
16.5 gr. H4227 1046
17.0 gr. H4227 1072
11.0 gr. AA#7 808
12.0 gr. AA#7 896
13.0 gr. AA#7 985
10.0 gr. HS-7 850
10.5 gr. HS-7 885
11.0 gr. HS-7 944
9.0 gr. WW540 790
6.0 gr. HP-38 813
5.5 gr. AA#2 791
6.0 gr. AA#2 856
HUNTING LOADS:
Speer 225 gr. JHP-SWC 7.7 gr. Unique 1089 FPS
Speer 225 gr. JHP-SWC 17.0 gr. H4227 1105 FPS
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