Re: Texas grandma shoots intruder


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A reasonable belief is a pretty high standard of proof. Just being in your
house doesn't give a "reasonable" man a fear for their life. I can cite too
many cases where the unwanted presence of another person in your home
doesn't qualify as a reasonable threat to a homeowner's life. So, it is not
reasonable to assume you are in grave bodily danger simply because a man
breaks into your home. He has to do more than that to be percieved as truly
threatening to you.


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No, it's archaic when it's origin goes back to times far back in history,
and it no longer applies. Lots of US laws are based on the old Napoleonic
Codes. Those are archaic. Hanging someone for horse thievery is archaic.
Killing a person because they are on your property without permission is
archaic. Laws like this are laws whose time has long past.

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So, you think that no state in the US is backward in any way? Some states
are not more "modern" than others? You can think that if you want but I
think otherwise. In my view, as well as many others, it's not a question
that some states are behind the times and yes, backward.

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Texas. A man's home is his castle in that state, Colorado too. A big 12 year
old that sneaks into your home when he shouldn't be there. Why shouldn't he
be fair game according to the "a man's home is his castle laws"?


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If you have read the posts in this thread you should have seen that several
people think anyone on their property is fair game. Which makes my statement
factual.
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bad
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one
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So sorry, but you don't get to "invent" the scenario and then say, look how
stupid I am. Nobody said anything about a situation where you have only a
few seconds to decide whether someone is a threat to you or not. In that
case you have no choice but to shoot. You made up that straw man to make
your point look good. I'm talking about when you have the chance to percieve
whether someone in your home is threatening or not and how you should
respond. It's not weird to respond to the situation appropriately. When in
danger shoot, when not, don't. If you truly aren't sure then you act like
it's a real threat. When they run from you even you should know that ain't a
threat.
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Don't be stupid. The normal assumption is that someone breaking into your
home is not doing it for your health. But you don't come out shooting until
you know what's going on.

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No, stupid, but killing someone that's unarmed and not doing anything
threatening is insane. Is that what you would do if you came upon a young
man in your house that made no move against you at all and had no weapon?
Besides that, if you had a shotgun and the intruder was unarmed many folks
would think the intruder was in danger, not you. If you came into my house
unarmed and I was armed, like always, I can guarantee that it would be you
who was in danger.
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between the
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You must not read well because I didn't imply it was unreasonable to take
reasonable self-defense actions when they are called for. I question whether
they are called for or not. Believe me, I will take any actions I deem
necessary to defend myself if I believe it's warranted. I see nothing wrong
with defending oneself. I'm a big believer in self defense. My problem is
with dorks that can't distinguish between when they are in danger or not.
It's like the TSA screeners doing searches of decrepit grandmothers looking
for weapons. I think that's ridiculous and I think it's ridiculous to think
you're in danger when you're not. One thing is for sure, you'll never see me
shooting at someone running from me, you I'm not so sure of.

Hawke



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