Re: "Yet Another Florida Gun Friendly Law"

In article <dhtoia$ofk$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Gunny" <Gunny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

# I am torn on this issue. But I think private property rights should have
# the heaviest concession. The locked car provision seems like a reasonable
# compromise between not allowing ANY guns on the property at all and allowing
# employees to carry openly on the job. I carry with a CCW license but I have
# the right to say whether someone else brings firearms on MY private
# property. I am a firm supporter of private property rights. It is one of
# the founding cornerstones of this country. If someone else objects to my
# policy, they have the right to not come on my property and provide me with
# their employee skills and customers have the right to deny me their
# patronage. If Disney decides they don't want firearms on their private
# property for whatever reason they believe in, that's their business. The
# park employee or tourist customer that just won't give up their right to
# carry has the personal freedom to look elsewhere for employment or
# entertainment. No one is forcing them to be on that PRIVATE property. I
# think the employer that allows the "packer" to bring his gun to the property
# but lock it in the vehicle during their stay is making a reasonable
# concession. Very few employers search vehicles anyway, (other than at some
# military or government installations) so making this a law is an easy
# option. I am still open to arguments on details I may have not considered.
# What do some of you other guys think? If it was YOUR private property, how
# would you handle the issue? Put yourself in the position of the "Packer"
# and put yourself in the position of the property owner. It's a complicate
# balance of rights.
#
I tend to agree with this. It is a pretty tough balancing act between
property owners' rights and CCW holders'.

I think it would simply be polite, and promote good relations between
employers and employees, not to have a blanket prohibition against
firearms on company property. The employees have to travel to and from
the job, so they may prefer to carry to and from but would not object to
not being allowed to carry on the job.

Delivery/collection folks and outdoor workers are yet another population
whose carry rights have been at issue.

Around here, near Akron OH, there are no few of those no deadly weapons
signs on doors. A few even actually comply with the CCW law.

I often remark to the property owners that those who will obey the signs
aren't the problem and those who are the problem won't obey the signs
anyway. It's surprising how many take some offense at that factoid.

I had occasion to go to the county courthouse to file some papers
recently. The main door had a metal detector inside with one Deputy
Sheriff attending, nobody else visible around the area at all. Talk
about being the first officer on the scene! :)

Scenario:
If Joe Terrorist or even just some disgruntled citizen wanted to gain
entry and hurt people in the building, how long would it take to shoot
one deputy and proceed through the rest of the building until eventually
stopped? Sawn-off shotgun under a long coat, head shot for the detector
deputy, and off to the races he goes! (Additional weapons are left as an
exercise for someone who would actually do this sort of thing.)

Sheesh!

Those who are the problem won't obey the signs anyway.


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