Re: Atari Cones $3.50 each

I second Brian's opinion and I know exactly where your coming from
although that may not help your case any. Honestly it doesn't matter
Steve if he's selling the same thing you are or not. If he's not
selling it, your the ***. If he is selling it, your the ***
for selling it too. He pulled the same routine with my labels and
whatever else I sold. Believe me I'm not in it souly for the money.
I suppose if I took everything for sale off my site, then he wouldn't
have anything to bitch about other than my breathing. He denigrates
not only your product but your character as well, downright personal
and mean spirited.
I know, noones paid a tad-bit of attention to me over the last 5 years
saying this guy is one mean-spirited bully. Calling it entertainment
and laughing at someone else's expense has been nothing more than a
slap in the face. But when YOU actually get bit by him that all goes
out the window and then called first hand experience. It will end
when popular opinion sides against him just as it has with psycho
Markline. The difference is, that it only matters to him because it's
business and it directly influences the flow of dollars. Not because
he wants to be a nice guy or sees collectors anything other than
dollar bills on legs. He plays hard ball but he may play nice now
that Prok stepped in.
My forecast is that he will reach an agreement with you and I'll take
the lumps and be his sole target in saving face. In that event, glad
I could help..I guess...
I just don't get it. He criticizes everyone else's products and
practices. But doesn't expect the same in return? Well where I'm
from you can turn the other cheek just so many times or fight fire
with fire and my flamethrower is itching to be scratched.

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:21:39 -0400, "Teaganm" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

You are right Brian (and I know you understand).

When Art and I both entered the market I wished him luck and replied by
undercutting my price. I offered to sell him my inventory and back out of
the business and he replied with "guess I will have to start throwing in
free switches with mine". With Ram-Controls entering the market I figured
it was time to get my cash out and look for new projects. Art seems to
think everything's about profit and undercutting everyone else until he is
the only supplier.

I always respected Art and felt he made some great contributions to the
hobby. I guess that holds true until you sell something he has. I've lost
a lot of that respect for him over this last month. I guess money brings
out peoples true colors.

I'm not here for the money. I wanted to help the community with a product
that was non-existent when I got together with my manufacturer. I also
hoped the profits would feed my next game related project. Doesn't look
like that will happen anytime soon. Time will tell how it all ends.

Steve

www.atariswitch.com


"prOk" <bsonej@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Competition is great in 'normal' commerce situations where you're
competing for customers in a large customer base.. THIS however is not
'normal'. It's a very small highly specialized hobby market. More than
one person making the same thing just takes what few dollars (relatively
speaking) there are available and dilutes it to the point where nobody
makes enough to justify anything else and the venture is short lived.
Best thing you guys can do is work together to stabilize a price because a
price war will just kill you both in the short run.

/brian


"Art M - Artfromny" <artgames@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If the HONEST value of these, in your opinion, is $3.50 each, how come
you tried to get $7 or so for them before?
Yes I got the same pricing you did; the difference is that I always
thought $6 or $7 was not only honest, it was realistic and would
encourage people to do other repros since there was profit in there at
that price.
Oh well, time will tell

--
Art
"Teaganm" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hey All,

Back in January I went into production with the Atari Start Button
Volcano cones. Many of you who know me know this is a hobby for me and
not my business. I felt there was a need for this product and wanted to
contribute back to the collecting community.

Apparently there are others who also saw this need and want to fill it
as well. I believe competition is good and keeps "honest" values on
reproduction products. This competition also slows everyone's sales
since I believe this is a fairly small market. So, I have decided to
temporarily reduce the selling price of my cones. This move will allow
me to reclaim my initial cash investment in a minimum of time. Once I
have accomplished this I will be making decisions on future pricing and
future product offerings.

If you have purchased cones from me already, Thank You. I have issued
refunds for the difference back to your Paypal accounts.

For everyone else, I am selling Tall Black Aluminum Cones for the Atari
start buttons for $3.50 each shipping included in the US (and many other
places). You can send Paypal to teaganm@xxxxxxxxx If you want greater
than 20 pieces please email me first. Cones are in stock and ready to
ship. Orders will be filled first come first served.

You can see photos of my cones at www.atariswitch.com , which has been
recently updated. Also, don't forget I can rebuild your old start
switches for only $10.

Thanks for reading.

Steve

www.atariswitch.com









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