Re: Evolution of an Anarch Deck

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suleci2@xxxxxxx wrote:

There's a school of thought that the decks that justify anarchdom are
neither clan nor discipline focused decks, that the payoff comes from
playing a bunch of vampires with partial crossover to generate a
multitude of effects.

Oh, sure. That seems to have been the original intent. But the payoff
that comes from a bunch of vampires with partial crossover to generate a
multitude of effects is pretty limited.

Since what you are doing sounds like going down path 2, I'd suggest
looking at either only building around a clan or discipline if there's
some effect that is strong and not available otherwise, like stealth
bleeding with mono-Presence, or going down the "what the hell kind of
crypt is this?" path. I don't see the latter being easy since it goes
against standard deck construction methodologies, but it could be the
way to justify anarchdom.

I think what is making things fall apart in my case is that Fee Stakes
suck. The need to be a 5+ cap totally hamstrings the operation in the
sense that the amount of work it takes to be a Baron (5+ capacity,
Anarch infrastructure) doesn't justify the advantage (Reckless
Agitation?), as you can get the same voting power for not much more
investement in vampires, without having to be an Anarch and without
having to become a Baron. And then, there also isn't an inherrent way to
remove a Prince's (or whatever) title (damn you Calebros!) that you
didn't have to work to get anyway.

The Anarch mechanic clearly was underpowered when it came out (likely
overly cautious design, which is certainly better than overly reckless
design, so I'm not going to hold it against anyone :-) Twilight
Rebellion addressed a lot of the underpowered aspects of the original
Anarch set, but I still think the Fee Stakes are still not really any
more playable than they used to be. I've seen a bunch of viable looking
Anarch decks. I've seen a handful of tournament winning Anarch decks. I
can't recall ever seeing a remotely competitive Baron based Anarch deck.

Peter D Bakija
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http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?"
-Gaff
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