Re: Rules question: Announcing actions



suolirusetti@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 29 kesä, 11:30, Salem <salem_christ....@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
suoliruse...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I announce an action card. Do I now:
> A) play an action modifier that says "Only usable as the action is
> announced" before declaring the effects of the action card?
> B) play the action modifier after declaring the effects of the action
> card?
> C) get to choose from one of the above?
> D) (some other option)

B)

> In other words, can I play Whispers from the Dead with Seduction and
> move that same Seduction back to my hand?

No.

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salem
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Are you sure? It seems to me that playing Seduction and declaring the
target of Whispers from the Dead are in the same window. Choosing the
order of effects in a timing window has traditionally been up to the
active Methuselah.

Rulebook wrote:
6.2.1. Announce the Action

Announce the action and tap the acting minion (only ready untapped minions can take actions). Any card required for >>the action is played (face up) at this time. All details of the action are declared when the action is announced, >>including the target(s), the cost, the effects, etc.

how can you choose the seduction for the WftD when you haven't even played the WftD card out of your hand yet, let alone any other cards?

1. You announce "whispers from the dead (at whatever level you're playing it) to get [card X] out of my ash heap"
2. You play the card WftD from your hand.
3. Replace WftD.
4. "...while I Seduce [vampire Y]"
5. Play Seduction.
6. Replace Seduction.

1 and 2 often happen simultaneously. But they are both still definitely before 3 or 4 or 5. (4 and 5 often being stuck together, too). And your Seduction isn't in your ash heap until _after_ step 5! Waaay too late to name it as a target for the WftD.

Just like you can't play a Minion Tap, draw to replace, see that your next card is a Voter Cap, and then say, "well, the Minion Tap is for 10 then on Arika!".
You have to play your MT and declare everything about it "Umm...Arika for 6...". Then you replace it "Voter cap?! Damn!".


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salem
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