Re: Case Study: Player withdrawing from the game



On Jun 10, 1:00 am, "Frederick Scott" <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<ira...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
I believe we can improve our current system if judges make similar
rulings given the same input.

Laudable - but nearly impossible. As Scott said, there are too many
variables. In this context, that means you couldn't keep track of
all the variables to have much chance of knowing when you were
encountering "the same input" - as some other occurance. If there
ever was one.

There are many complex fields of study that are taught partially
through Case Studies, and they've been shown to be an effective
teaching tool. One of the most common ways to teach Ethics, which
requires judgement of multiple shades of gray, is through Case
Studies.

Of course, if Peter and nystulc just want to flame back and forth all
day, I agree that it becomes less useful. :)

Oh, my, it seems painfully obvious you cannot. Or rather, perhaps you
could but the cross-section of discussed cases would always be so small
as to be fairly worthless as a tool for future judging.

I disagree. From my experience, the same sorts of challenges come up
over and over while judging tournaments. There are always variations
on a theme. Sure, you won't have *exactly* the same input conditions,
but humans are excellent at identifying patterns and extrapolating
related answers.

the "consensus" might actually be counter-productive because of the
temptation to use some temptingly similar discussed case as a baseline
only to discover a few specific details can make a lot of difference in
reckoning "fairness".

I disagree. Spending time thinking about complicated, multi-faceted
judging situations can only help to make a judge more aware of all the
issues when making a future judgement.

Thinking about things from multiple different perspectives,
considering all the options, is a skill that can be improved and honed
with practice. Case Studies are an opportunity for such a practice.

Also, and I didn't mention this before, Case Studies are an
opportunity to identify any outliers. If someone responds to a Case
Study with an obviously-bad solution, it's useful for the community to
give them feedback and an opportunity to reassess their judgement for
that case. So not only do Case Studies help hone in on the several
good solutions, they also help rule out the obviously bad solutions.

Ira
.



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