Re: [OT] Re: Taking notes (was Re: Obtain level information)

Roy and Jukka are going on a flamewar upon some answering policies.

(>>>, > => Roy, >> => Jukka)

  Looks like you should have replied to the original post, not a
subsequent reply.


*SIGH* This is getting silly..
I DID.

Nope. Otherwise HIS text would not have been there. 

(and so on)


I responded to your response to what Janis wrote, and left Janis's
text there for context.


  Your response is directly under HIS text, and nothing I stated is
there (under your first lines) at all.

If I read that thread properly, the first time Roy started complaining about the answering policy of Jukka is in message
Message-ID: <vc5nr1duotfhm62o8h9h6hqkbuss0rbgua@xxxxxxx>

Where he says :

   You obviously didn't even read the post.  First, you quoted
   something another said as me.  Now, you didn't notice where I said
   that not everyone runs the same OS you run.  It is a simple question
   of portability.

This was in answer to message:
Message-ID: 	<yrjaceccrcd.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Which I reproduce completely here (hoping that my extra indentation will not uspest the whole thing to much).

   Roy L. Fuchs <roylfuchs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
   > On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:51:29 +0100, Janis Papanagnou

   > >Do I understand correct, you mean to call some notes editor?
   >   Or integrate such a notekeeper into the game.

Almost everybody has their own preferences for a text editor, and a
favorite editor for whatever platform they play Nethack on..
It is generally a better idea to let the user decide which text editor to
use (with all its features) than to bloat the code of another program. At
least it should be an option.

   Is there a platform for which the game has been implemented that doesn't
   have its own text editor callable from another program?

   >   Pretty kludgy to switch away from the game.  It sounds a lot better
   > to me to have all windows on a single desktop.  Switching away means

   That's just your opinion. I don't find switching virtual consoles kludgy
   at all. That's what they are there for, IMO.

   --
   Jukka Lahtinen

So, looking at the headers, Jukka is answering to Roy who is himself answering to Janis. Now does Jukka answer came after Janis saying of after Roy saying ?

Let's reproduce the message once more (sufficiently space have already be wasted on this topic to go on without restrain) but this time playing the "who says what" game (comments are added in brackets []).
Message-ID: <yrjaceccrcd.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

[Jukka is posting, so anything without quotation mark is from Jukka]

   Roy L. Fuchs <roylfuchs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
[Jukka is answering to Roy, so everything with a single '>' is from Roy]
   > On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:51:29 +0100, Janis Papanagnou
[Single '>', hence from Roy]
[Roy is answering to Janis, so anything with two '>' is from Janis]

> >Do I understand correct, you mean to call some notes editor?
[Two '>', hence this line is from Janis]
[Indeed, it originally came from Message-ID: <dpfr9j$sho$1@xxxxxxxxx>]
> Or integrate such a notekeeper into the game.
[A single '>', so this line is from Roy]
[Indeed, it come from Message-ID: <sismr11fkl3q5jvi7v6l2ehicrobb7k6uc@xxxxxxx>]
[In that message, this single line was Roy's only answer to the previous comment by Janis]

Almost everybody has their own preferences for a text editor, and a
favorite editor for whatever platform they play Nethack on..
It is generally a better idea to let the user decide which text editor to
use (with all its features) than to bloat the code of another program. At
least it should be an option.

   Is there a platform for which the game has been implemented that doesn't
   have its own text editor callable from another program?

[No '>', so this is from Jukka]
[This come directly after a line by Roy, so can be assumed to be answering to Roy and not to Janis]

   >   Pretty kludgy to switch away from the game.  It sounds a lot better
   > to me to have all windows on a single desktop.  Switching away means

[Single '>', from Roy (same message)]

   That's just your opinion. I don't find switching virtual consoles kludgy
   at all. That's what they are there for, IMO.

[No '>', from Jukka, assumed to be answering Roy]
[Sig deleted]

So Jukka was indeed (apparently) answering to Roy who was answering to Janis and not directly to Janis. And quoting Janis can be assumed to be done for context purpose only, as claimed by Jukka.

On Roy's side, we may notice that Jukka removed while quoting the blank line introduced by Roy when answering to Janis (in Message-ID: <sismr11fkl3q5jvi7v6l2ehicrobb7k6uc@xxxxxxx>). So the resulting post (the one from Jukka that started everything) presented a single block of text with lines from two different peoples, making it a bit harder to distinguish quickly if the newsreader does not perform quotation coloration.

I guess this line was suppressed for the sake of space usage...

--
Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.
.

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