Re: Question on killing and resurrecting co-aligned unicorns

Mantar, Feyelno nek dusa wrote:
>
> As for "so much time and energy," it only took about 30
> seconds of thought to come up with the above as well.

Either that or you've been around since the time the rules
were posted regularly on a group that your newsreader would
not let you un-sub from and you remembered.

> "Reading and enjoying it" is great, but the history of usenet has shown
> clearly that this type of OMG-FAQ-NAZI behavior keeps a group's
> signal-to-noise ratio high: A laissez-faire attitude towards violations of
> usenet etiquette frequently leads to the death of a group, and usenet is
> littered with groups that have gone that way. The few that are still
> fairly good are some of the most rules-nazi infested around. It's an
> obvious causal correlation as detailed in the quoted text above.

It's only obvious if you visit more a bunch of groups and
have the time for the trends to seap in. Thus newbies
don't get it and single-group folks don't either.

> Usenet
> has only three means of mitigating trollish behavior: education, plonking,
> and flaming. They should be used in that order.

There's a fourth option - Taking the newsgroup moderated.
There have been thriving newsgroups that were attacked by
single obessives. A few dedicated regular decided to do
the work involved in creating a moderated version, and
the moderation used to reject off-topic posts. Off-topic
posts include trolls, spammers, folks with no clue what
the group's charter is and so on.

> > People trying to read a fun discussion forum which keeps getting
> > interrupted by good threads which devolve into monotonous, juvenile
> > chestpuffing over absolutely stupid nitpicks - we tend to think the
> > latter too.
>
> Sorry, but those are the breaks. Signal to noise is never 1/0. Ignore the
> thread and move on! I don't care. This sort of thing has to happen when
> trolls pop up, and especially when they start evading killfiles and
> arguing that their behavior should be tolerated. If you don't want to read
> about it, more power to ya, but why are you arguing with me?

Either a potential troll or someone who hasn't been around
long enough to see poor quality enforcement kill a newsgroup.

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