Re: Flamewar _ DO NOT READ
- From: valis <campbell@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:46:58 -0700 (PDT)
I know that replying to this is going to perpetuate this thread.
Forgive me, r.g.r.a.
I know that Neo will reply thinking that my responses below are
insults, deleting my text. The nature of my daily work compels me
regardless. Forgive me.
I would say that I don't intend any of these things to be nasty or
insulting. I'm just trying to share knowledge that may indicate to Neo
why people respond the way they do (for instance, Why I 'flamed' him
'out of nowhere').
Of course, my behavior is different. First of all nothing proves me
wrong, and secondly I don't tend to insult anyone here.
I'll repeat the relevant info form above.
"First of all nothing proves me wrong."
This isn't as interesting as what follows.
I am of course
never shown a reason why I cannot be right, because no such reason can
exist, and when someone makes false accusations against me I *never*
ignore them.
The above says no reason can exist why you (neo) can't be right. i.e.
the very idea that you are wrong is impossible.
Do you really believe that it's not possible that you can be right?
At work, when someone indicates that they can't be wrong, this is
often a key sign of "Narcissism". The cause of Narcissism is often low
self-esteem, with an inflated view of the self in order to protect the
deep fear that one is actually worthless. (Wiki link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder)
The issue that is relevant here is that when there is an insult or the
possibility of error or failure the person is compelled to respond
physically or verbally. If they 'insult' or 'error' were to stand then
the person fears it will give everyone insight into their inner
worthless nature.
Their interior nature is of course not worthless. It has the same
infinite value as everyone else. The person doesn't recognize this and
thus feels compelled to reply.
I also don't refuse to do research, except where I'd be
doing someone else's research for them that they lazily refused to do
themselves. I do sometimes *not do research*, but that's different
from *refusing to*; people sometimes seem to want me to have done some
research, but for some reason they'd failed to actually communicate
this in advance. People also sometimes lazily reference things without
actually including a URL, which I can't follow up without wastefully
duplicating work the poster must have already done in the past.
This is, in fact, a traditional thinking error on both parts. For
anyone to hold expectations of other people (especially ones you don't
know that are over the internet) is to be disappointed.
It is a thinking error for anyone on Usenet to assume that you should
or should not do something.
It is a thinking error for you to assume that people should post
links. We just must accept what is.
This type of "should" thinking is a common thinking error.
That's in common with me, but I have a good reason: I never do start
an argument. I'm not the type to post out of the blue and call someone
else names without provocation. You might want to look in the mirror
there, buddy, and at Valis. This thread was quite civil right up until
Valis responded to George's innocuous "Who's Neo?" with a verbose rant
chock-full of unprovoked hostility directed against me. And with posts
like this one I'm replying to, you sure as hell aren't helping.
You've spent years provoking that kind of response. You don't have to
do anything *today* to provoke something.
Sure. You and Valis shut up about me and this will all blow over
almost immediately thereafter.
The thing is, whether people are pointing it out or not, whether you
are roused to post from your own boredom, or your compulsion to
attempt to uselessly control other's behavior, your choices and
thoughts will *not* blow over. In addition to this, Usenet is a
relatively static permanent archive of your writing and text. So
basically the 'insults' you keep deleting are written for all time, as
well as your responses which IMHO don't really help your case very
much. You are of course free to continue and I have no doubt you
will.
Writing how things are untrue does not stop anyone from thinking them.
Clearly it does not stop anyone from writing them. All it does, is,
well, nothing.
Sound and the Fury, eh?
-Campbell
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