Re: Is it too soon to have the MM Remake post mortem discussion?



sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Mar 4, 2:05 am, Drewscruis <Drewscr...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 3, 9:12 am, Kyle Wren <kylewrenT...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





In article <ecaca7dc-0eb7-4278-b699-b8be1a864...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
falcon200...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
On Mar 3, 1:27=A0am, Milt <theatreguynos...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Kyle Wren wrote:
I don't want to start shoveling dirt if there is really people here tha=
t believe
this is still happening. But facts are, it's March 2009 which would see=
m to
qualify as later than "early 2009" which was the last predicted ship da=
te for
Wayne's games.
Did anyone get their game yet?
Is there anyone still waiting for a requested refund? If so how long ag=
o did you
request it?
Is there anyone with a deposit in that is still content to wait? Can I =
ask why?
How will the distributors (like Phil at PBH) turn out from this? I woul=
d hate to
see them lose a bunch of money on this deal.
I'll go ahead and answer the question ahead of time that will be asked =
of me.
"Why do you care so much Kyle when you have no money invested, is it re=
ally
necessary to stir up this crap again?". Pretty simple, I just do, and i=
t's time.
Wayne has been sitting on this pot for a couple of years now, it's time=
for him
to finally stand up and show us what he has managed to make.
I think its safe to say this game won't happen. But, is anyone actually
surprised by that? Its been obvious to me for a couple years the guy was
a con-artist. I shoveled dirt and buried this thing a long time ago.
I feel sorry if anyone still has money out on this thing, or then again,
maybe I don't. Anyone that STILL has money on this failed project
deserves to lose it at this point.- Hide quoted text -
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Dead money! I'm going to start making MM, mine are only $4500. Email
me for more info. Oh ya Cash only. They will be finished sometime in
the future. Sounds crazy right? It's what Wayne pulled off! Nice job
Wayne.
Well, every thread needs a good "crazy post" to send it off for it's Google
archival dirt-nap. So I will take a stab at it with this honest post. You might
want to sit down before you read my next sentence:
I honestly don't believe that Wayne intended to scam anyone with this project!
Don't get me wrong, I have always doubted whether he could have done it, but I
think when he started collecting deposits he did so with the full intention of
making games. Either it was too costly for price he advertised, or he wasn't
able to find the right tooling, or he underestimated the cost to setup an
assembly line, or he couldn't afford to hire the manufacturing experts to do
this stuff for him, etc, etc, I don't know. What I do blame him for is at some
point he must have realized he had an insurmountable obstacle and yet he
continued to issue false delivery dates, etc instead of just raising the white
flag of surrender. The fact is he has proven he is very capable of producing
pinball playfields, why aren't there pictures of 1000 of them sitting in his
warehouse?
--
Kyle Wren - CARGPB #27
"Back by Popular Demand - Happy Kyle!"- Hide quoted text -
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the reason there are no pictures (or machines) is (next excuse from
wayne) everything burned to the ground in the wild fires. waiting on
my insurance to pay for everything. simple scape goat there.- Hide quoted text -

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You are one sick son of a Bitch.

Over 1800 Homes Burnt to the Ground and over 210 People Burnt Alive.

Go back to the rock your crawed out from under!


There we have it folks, all the stuff he could possibly reply to, and he replies to this. What he has NOT said speaks more than what he DID say.

I think its safe to say now, TPF will never release MM, CC or any other pinball machine, EVER!
.



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