Re: TEAM EM, One last question on Williams Argosy

On Nov 6, 11:22 pm, AL <A...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 6, 7:55 pm, pinhead81 <wpbu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Nov 6, 4:12 pm, Steve Yates <stevegoo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 6, 12:09 pm, pinhead81 <wpbu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

First, I want to say thanks a million to Al and Steve Yates for all of
the help with this machine. With your patience I was actually able to
start understanding the schematics and feel pretty comfortable
following them. I got the Argosy up and running the other day after
having to take a lot of time off because of my son's deployment
overseas and some family health problems that came up.

Everything works on the machine now but sometimes during a game the
machine resets, actually it seems like just the scores reset, the ball
in play will stay the same, i.e. if it's on ball three, the scores
will reset but the ball in play will stay on three. I've noticed it
happen when the targets reset and also when the bonus countdown is
finishing. These two actions seem to be fairly violent operations as
far as action goes, so I'm assuming that there is a switch gapped too
close somewhere but can't seem to logically think which one it may be.
Any ideas where to start looking?

Thanks,

Walt

It sounds like the hold switch (Blue-White and Blue-Brown wires) on
your Reset relay is gapped too closely.  If vibration closes this
switch the Reset relay will energize and stay locked on until all
score reels are reset.  Since the Game Over relay is latched, the Ball
Count unit will not reset as it would at the start of a game.

Adjust the gap on this switch so that it holds the relay properly when
energized but wide enough that vibration wil not cause it to close.

Steve Yates- Hide quoted text -

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That wasn't it, I checked it out and it was gapped real far. I gapped
it even farther and played a game. When the bonus was counting down
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I thought Steve had it there.

Try sliding a piece of card stock between the switch on the Game Over
relay with the ORN-RED and BLU-WHT wires. Play as you were and see if
it still resets scores.

AL  CARGPB 33(1/3)www.Team-EM.com- Hide quoted text -

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The only reason I didn't suggest looking at that switch too is that it
shouldn't have an effect unless the Yellow to Orange-Red switch on the
Coin relay also closes. So the Coin relay switch would need to be
gapped too close and the Game Over relay switch would need to be
gapped too close or stuck closed. The Coin relay switch can't be
stuck closed or a new game would start immediately everytime a game
ends.

If these switches are not a problem, then I would suggest checking all
5 connection points of the Blue-White wire and look for something
loose that may short against one when shaken. This wire connects to
the Reset relay coil, the Reset and Game Over relay sswitches mention
above, and score motor switches IMP-A and IMP-E.

Steve Yates
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