Re: Rottendog Anouncement

You test printed circuit boards week with a "test stand". I am sure it is
hard to understand, but you take the boards and put them into a engineered
fixture and run "tests".

Oh yes, you questioned my background, what is yours?

How many bad boards have you received?

Oh yes, be sure to respond anonymously via email.

Jim Knight
734 330 5543


"cody chunn" <cchunn3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Jim Knight" <rottendogNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Cody,

I am a "old" electronics engineer with a BSEE from University of Florida
circa 1989. I am currently working for Ford Motor Company in Electronics
design. What do you do for a living?


I troll the internet making wild, unsubstantiated accusations. I wonder
how many resources you swipe from your job for your pinball supplemental
income?

As of recent times, we ship about 100 boards a week across 23 (maybe
more) product lines and are expanding to more.


Yeah? Got one that works yet?

Exactly how many bad boards that we have sent out do you know of to have
been received? PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION


All the ones that people posted tech posts requesting help on getting
their non-working boards fixed, then all the people who replied to those
saying they too got a junk board but you did whatever it took to make it
right so you're a stand up guy. I can't give you an exact number because I
haven't searched it, and am not going to. I read them the first time.

Also, most of our products are power driver boards that people purchase
because their "power driver board" is not functional. Any stretch here?


Nope.

I 100 percent test the boards that leave here. Do we make mistakes? Yes.
When we do, we do everything we can to make it right by the Joe that puts
his hard working money up for a replacement.


How do you test a hundred boards a week and still do a full time job?

Maybe you can look over our test equipment and processes and give us some
hints on how to improve it? I am 100 percent open to it. Please call and
maybe we can talk?


I couldn't see your setup over the phone so I'm not following you here.

As always, I can be reached at 734 330 5543, but as usual, you bunch of
lilly livered, teet sucking, 14" monitor hiding, excuse for men, find it
easier to talk behind someones back than step up and speak to the face of
the person you have a problem with.


Behind your back? *YOU* made an "announcement", which was more an
incoherent rant than anything else, that I responded to. Now this? You're
starting to sound unstable.

Cody and "friends", do you have the stones to pick up the phone and talk?

Why would I need "stones" to speak with you? It sounds like you are
prepared to give me what for. Why would I want to hear more insults like
the above?

Since the phone still ain't ringing, I assume it still ain't you"


Since, if the phone isn't ringing there's *no one* calling, it is a very
astute observation that it isn't me. Sharp.
Jim Knight

734 330 5543

6423 Munger Rd

Ypsilanti, MI 48197\

USA (by the grace of GOD).

--
-cody
CARGPB4


"cody chunn" <cchunn3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Call me crazy, I just think if you're going to "engineer" a replacement
circuit board for retail sale you should be at a place where you don't
need to ask advice from a newsgroup, regardless of who participates.
There is just so much wrong with soliciting build advice in this
instance from a mostly anonymous source it boggles the mind you would
condone it. If he takes the wrong advice, who pays the price? My point
is: if you're going to bring a *circuit board* to market, you should
already *know* *everything* that's going into the circuit, or you
shouldn't be doing it *as a business*. As a hobby, fire away and learn
from your mistakes.

--
-cody
CARGPB4


"Donnie Barnes" <djbSPAMSUCKS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Apr, cody chunn wrote:
I hope your purchases are all trouble free, but please don't junk your
original boards. You just might need them sooner than later. Remember
when
Jim asked RGP for advice on making some of his stuff? Doesn't that
make you
wonder about his credentials just a little bit?

Makes me respect him that much more. How many times have people done
repro boards in the dark, posted them here, and then got ripped for a
laundry list of little things that they could have done better? This
group is not just made up of ignorant newbies who need help learning
to solder for the first time (I really am getting sick of the recurring
"which soldering station should I buy" thread, though! :). It's also
made up of some very talented engineers with a lot of real world and,
gasp, pinball experience!

Jim knows a lot, and has done some things that truly help the pinball
community. He's been open here and let people help make those efforts
even better. I commend him for that. In fact, I think you're just
plain wrong in trying to say that just because someone would solicite
input from this group on product design that they must not be very good
at what they do. That's actually a slap in the face to the group, too.

I can not and will not debate the quality of his products. I've only
ever touched one of his driver boards, and while it was in need of
repair, it was because someone I knew assumed an easy fix for his
ailing
IJ was throwing a new driver board at it when instead it was the game
causing the board failure, not the other way around. Clive fixed it
along with a big batch of other boards for me and didn't seem to have
any complaints about it, but I didn't ask him specifically what he
thought
of the board, either.


--Donnie








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