Re: Tech: TZ Color Changing LED (Clock Millions)

On Feb 11, 1:15 pm, Jason Bauer <jasonpaulba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 11, 11:19 am, bcspinb...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:



On Feb 11, 9:54 am, Jason Bauer <jasonpaulba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Feb 11, 9:34 am, bcspinb...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Feb 9, 12:22 am, Chris LeMasters <clemast...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I purchases one of the color changing LED lamps (#44 replacement) for
the "Clock Millions" target on my TZ. The lamp works fine (and looks
quite impressive, too), but now I get an unusual behavior. Whenever
the "Middle Right 5 Million" lamp is activated, the "Clock Millions"
LED lamp also lights, although much more dimly than normal. If I
replace the LED with a normal #44, the power must not be enough to
cause this behavior.

The "Middle Right 5 Million" lamp is right next to "Clock Millions" on
row 2.

Is a bit of 'power leak' typical in adjacent lamps on the same row -
and could it be enough to trigger the LED but not a regular lamp? (I
thought it normally worked the other way).

I thought this was interesting. Any thoughts? Anyone else try this
LED and have a similar experience?

Chris LeMasters
San Diego

The issue is that there is a small power leak on the column/row of
lamps that has enough juice to activate the LED. there is ways of
fixing the LED bulbs to not do this, but i havent made the fix into
production yet. I have seen this in my STTNG and Black SM.

Bruce

www.bcspinball.com

I just noticed this in a new form on my BSD. When all lights are out,
ie in video mode, I have one LED that still is dimly lit, so its not
cross over from others in the matrix it is something else. I've only
installed about 7 LED's in this machine so far, and a majority of them
are dimly lit when they should not be.

I personally am not going to try and hunt down all the possible
"leaks", too much effort, I will just not buy more LED bulbs until it
is resolved in the bulbs.

Please take this as constructive feedback. I really like the look of
your bulbs, but am annoyed by this "leak." It has kept me from
ordering more bulbs and I think I am not the only one.

Thanks for the effort. I do realize you've put a lot of time into
getting these to market, but I think they need a little more work to
be a direct replacement.

Jason

Jason,

I understand and i have been working on this. It doesnt happen for all
bulbs and certain colors. I have actually seen the Incandescent bulbs
be slight lit also, but it so faint it does not get through the
insert. Right now i am working to two new circuits for the bulbs and
will try to work in the fix to make this anomaly go away. its a fine
line balance in getting the brightest effect and resistance to balance
this issue out. The fix also negates some of the power saving
benefits. Again, i am not happy with this issue and why i trying to
resolve it. But the over all benefits to reducing the heat loads and
power loads on the circuits in my opinion out weighs the slightly lit
LED. 90% of the applications you will not see this problem, only in
certain controlled lamps which, i am assuming are all 555 type bulbs,
not the 44. please let me know if i am wrong.

Brucewww.bcspinball.com

I am seeing it on 44 bulbs as well. Specifically I recall all 4 of the
blue ones I have installed have done it. And its one of these that is
dimly lit during video mode when no lamps should be lit.

Where are you installing these on you BSD. I will put them in my BSD
to repeat this.

Bruce
.

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