Re: OT: Kinda prying here, but what does everyone do for a living?



On Jul 30, 8:00 pm, JDubbbs <jdub...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 30, 6:44 pm, "Eric A." <eavedes...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry, wrong link:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/grinding.jpg

Yes, that does hit home, looks alot like the work i do. I also as a
union member am in a fight to keep my trade alive Eric. Thanks for
posting this, its proof that our work is also going overseas. I myself
pay for my training, on my time, and out of my wage package. I am
trained to protect myself with the right equitment for the assinged
task at hand. I pay for this, it helps keep my employer in business.
The union trains me, my contract insures that the gear to do the job
is there.

so when you were getting trained by your fellow boilermaker you were
at the facility on your own time? You weren't getting trained under an
apprentice rate of pay?


As a boilermaker, i did graduate the apprenticeship and that is
viewed as a equal to any college degree. I was trained by boilermakers
and now after 16 years, i am a trainer. I will offer my training to
any boilermaker apprentice no matter how much i like or dislike about
that "brother". The reason my union is strong is that we met the enemy
and gave connsessions to keep our work. The companys went the other
way, tried non-union labor and now they came back. The skill quality
was a major factor as well as saftey issues you so kindly posted. :o)

There is nothing wrong with what the UAW has negotiated. If it wasn't
viable the company would never have agreed to it. As you pointed out
you can go to another state and control the union, or can you?
concesions might have to be made but you sound like you want
everythuing to go to way side and allow the "Fat Cats" to reap the
cost savings.

Your union does the exact same thing as mine. They want the best for
their members.

The more I read your replies the more it looks like you are actually
jealous of the benefits that I have and how I should give up what my
union had fought for and earned.


But as much as it hits home for myself, it also hit Mr. Sarcastic,
Yourself, Mike and alot of other union members as this is your enemy.

No it actually doesn't "hit home". This isn't a war it is a TEAM which
is what you seem to fail to recognize. I'm not going to give up
anything if I don't have to. However, if my UAW union comes to me and
says "This is what we have to do" then so be it. Not you or anyone
else that seems to be jealous that i have a pension, vacation time,
insurance, and profit sharing is going to tell me otherwise.

This is who is trying for your job. This is a man who works for the
company, not for himself. This is the man who dont need a car, just a
bowl of rice on the table. This is a man just like you and i trying to
make a living. In this case, any way he can. Not only is the UAW
fighting this, they are also fighting automation.

I will never compete with this guy. If you think you can survive on 75
cents an hour then you try it. After all that would help out the
companies you contract for, right?


I hope the best for the UAW, but they are fighting an uphill battle
against outsourcing. I feel bad for my wifes family, they all work
with Fords, aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, Mother and her father.
Believe me, i fear for their jobs, but they are all living real good.
Right now !!

Do not give up hope, we all make changes with the times it just seems
like from what I'm reading from you that you want to go back 20 years
ago.

.



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