Re: Possible BBB for sale

To answer your question Bryan, I have made money on some pins I have
sold. BUT I put work into every one of them, and from an hourly wage
perspective I clearly lost money. I have never bought something and
resold it untouched for a profit just because I held it and it
appreciated. And I have never resold parts I have bought and held for
a profit either. I make plenty of money at work, pinball is for fun.

And to be honest, the pins I did restore or shop and sell for a
"profit" made me feel guilty. I felt I was being greedy, but I knew
damn well if I didn't make some money on the games I wouldn't be able
to justify my next purchase because every other seller had jacked up
their prices as well. And despite the fact I did make some money, I
sold the games for very reasonable prices. Many have even told me I do
nice work and I could have sold the games for more. But why? I was
happy with the money, and the buyers got a fair deal. Is it really
necessary for everybody to squeeze out every dime they can get their
greedy mits on?

I just feel this whole "rare" issue, and hedging, and gouging is
riduculous and unsavory. Does everyone in this hobby depend on pinball
to make a living? I know some people are in this for a business such
as ops, retail joints, parts distributors, and that is fine if they
need to make a fair profit. But don't the rest of the people who
consider this a "hobby" make enough at work that they don't have to
calculate a return on their friggin pinball machines? Why should a BBB
interest be sold for what it was bought for, or better yet less than
what it was bought for? Somebody who ponyed up the dough and can't
handle the heat should take a loss, just like anything else. Why the
hell should somebody make any $$$$ selling a thing they never received,
might not ever recieve, and didn't lift a finger to do any work on
other than write a check? If anything they should get back the $$$$
invested plus the 3% interest they could have earned, but making a
double digit gain? WTF?

Sorry but this will always be a sore spot for me. When I want to stress
out about returns, hedges, derivatives, and futures I will stick to
stocks, bonds, or commodities. When I want to have some fun I will
turn to pinball. If others would adopt that philosophy the "hobby"
would be much better off.


Bryan Kelly wrote:
> So what you're saying is, you've never sold anything in this hobby for
> a profit???
>
> Sure prices have gone up over the last 2 1/2 years. But there's still
> deals to be had and great people invloved that are more then happy to
> do others favors and help out the new guys.
>
> BBB just happens to be a unique situation. Trust me, there are those
> that didn't get in on the initial orders that are more then happy to
> pay more then the original asking price.
>
> Bryan (CARGPB 14)
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>
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>
>
>
> JDix wrote:
> > Sorry but in my opinion this selling "rights" or "interest" or "claims"
> > or "equity" or whatever these people have in BBB project is total
> > bull***. If you want to break even and sell it off for what you paid
> > because you can't sack the risk fine, . .but marking up something that
> > doesn't even, or may not ever even exist? Give me a break.
> >
> > This is a frigging hobby. Now people are selling "futures" in pinballs?
> > What a total crock. Could you possibly try harder to take the fun out
> > of the hobby?
> >
> > I have only been in the hobby around 2 1/2 years, but I sure miss the
> > brief days I got to enjoy at the start when people seemed to be in this
> > for the fun, not the bottom line, or the turnover, or whatever. Back
> > then you could get a decent pin at a decent price, and sell a pin at a
> > decent price without having to know you are gonna get shafted on the
> > next purchase. It's all about the $$$$ now.
> >
> > Hopefully this speculation and "How can I make some $$$$ mentality?"
> > fades out soon, because it totally blows.

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