Re: Mah-Jong Review
- From: al <alee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:58:55 -0700 (PDT)
[..] This is a review item first posted months ago. Answer to the
following question may help us to understand Mah-Jong history.
al:
al:What was the "purpose" of Ma Diao?
There is more than "purpose". Cards had "applications" according toquote from page 87, The playing-Card Volume 31, number2. Translation
the writing of Pan about "Leaves" [cards].
by Lo...
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"There are a hundred games and more, because the applications are
numerous, and changes are the fashion."
al:
"APPLICATIONS ARE NUMEROUS". WHAT APPLICATION?al:
By definition, application means USE, FUNCTION, PURPOSE, APPLIANCE.
“When cards for wine drinking appeared, the ancient purpose [of these
cards] was lost, and the applications became all the more shallow.”
al:This is in reference to Ma Diao,[..][This]
COULD [only] MEAN MA DIAO HAD A PURPOSE AND AN APPLICATION OR A USEFUL FUNCTION IN EARLIER TIME BEFORE PAN.
[..]
Tarot cards typically have purposeful function.What game in olden days didn't have a purpose and application?
The important historical reference is the knowledge that paper cards
like Ma Diao and hundred others had purposeful applications, as
implied in Pan's writing.
[..]
> The question becomes what [purpose] did “zero> Cash” and Half Cash” have?
No answer yet.
Did Ma Diao have more relevance with actual symbols like TAIJI diagram
and "Grand Ultimate" , "Guest with missing teeth" and Quo in earlier time?
Obviously, these I-Ching symbols have lost their meaning in Pan's
manual and in Lo's translation. Did the same I-Ching symbols serve
some useful purpose long ago?
Good questions for scholars and historians, but nothing being
discussed.
[..][..]
From earlier discussion, the best information on suo3 (索) has been
typically as follows. [Thanks to Julian].
[..] according to [dictionar]
suo3 (索) has a wide range of meanings, the main ones being (from
CEDICT)
/ to search / to demand / o ask / to exact / large rope / isolated /
That definition is potentially purposeful. I have yet to hear a
response to it one way or another, except one, "So what".
[..]The link below shows divination evidence.
I know of...
No scholar or historian has ever related suo3 (索) to the meaning of
[asking, demanding, searching or exacting].
So far I have not heard of any response to the above.
Yet...> [..] Why was the “wide range of meanings” ignored?
[..]Divination is n exercise that search, and ecact answers to thousands
of questions for tens of thousands of people through the ages.
Bamboo has longer history than string.
http://www.taopage.org/iching/iching_symbols.html
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800 bamboo strips with recorded Chinese characters discovered in a
tomb dating back to the fourth century B.C.
It would have served a purpose more than a string.
http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/02.22/photos/07-chinese1-300.jpg
[..]. Bamboo symbol in mahjong could well be a
metaphor for written divination answers.
[..]Cheers....al
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