Re: And now from NewInGo - something about Go!


mark.wirdnam@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
So you agree already that there is likely a majority objecting
to your posts. Well, if they do, it's not a "tyranny". I'm asking
those that want this newsgroup to continue to be what it was
meant to be to speak out. It's either that or the whole service
deteriorates. If a whole newsgroup falls into disuse because
of you and Frank then you were the tyrants.


No, I haven't agreed to the measure of something before
it is actually measured. Then again, perhaps it's again useful to
"measure twice" before "cutting once." It appeared that the thrust
of your argument was to obtain a measure and, if "favorable" to
whatever perspective you were going to advance, then you were
going to base some action upon that measure. (Though, if the
measure was "unfavorable" to your perspective, you were not
planning any action for that contingency. This was imbalanced).

Second, you need to supply an understanding for what it
means to have a deteriorating service. If you were to "measure"
(again, that word) the numbers of citations of individuals by other
individuals in their postings, perhaps a picture quite different from
the one you initially suppose might emerge. Who is cited most
frequently, how many followups on initiated threads and who had
initiated those threads, and so forth. A rather different way of
conducting an evaluation of whether a service deteriorates or not.

Third, the fact remains that nobody's posting behavior here
in any way, shape, or fashion inhibits others from making posts.
That's the beauty of a bulletin board: one's newsreader displays
(or does not display) the author name, the subject line, etc. etc.
The purpose of a newsreader was to enable selectivity for the
bulletin board; strange in this late day and age that we still hear
of people having trouble using their newsreaders appropriately.

Whether one has a majority or not, makes no difference. If
one speaks for a majority then the majority view finds no difficulty
receiving an audition. At that point the majority view is propaganda.
If one speaks for a minority then one obtains minority rights to do so.

It should be pointed out that democracies are more likely to
wage war, because their leaders can claim support by the people.
( See weblink at the end of this posting ).



If there is no more resistance then maybe most people really
don't mind or everyone else has left already. That way I know it's
time for me to leave (too).


If you find it difficult to make positive contributions to wisdom
offerings then you might be recommended to follow your own advice.




"Jeff Nowakowski" <jeffno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
However, all this political stuff is way off-topic. Should everybody
post about their favorite issue? Raise money for charities, save the
environment, complain about outsourcing, etc. There's no end to it.


I am aghast and flabbergasted that Mr. Nowakowski should choose to
trivialize news of _war_crimes_ through trite comparisons to charities,
environment, economics, mundane (domestic) political issues. In
this apocalyptic age we are privy to _war_crimes_ occurring in every
generation, so people at large are being made numb. Even mass
media has become numbed by repetitive _war_crimes_ when there
is no public outrage in the democracies that commit them. Now the
War Crimes trials in Germany and Japan come back to haunt the USA:
Lt. Watada (Japanese-American) puts his career on the line by refusing
to serve in Iraq, claiming precedence from the Nuremberg Court.




Unfortunately, people like jb and Sam Sloan don't care about being
off-topic. So, having expressed my opinion on this topic, I will leave
it at that and just resume ignoring off-topic posts.


Sam Sloan is announcing Shogi (and Go) news, crossover players,
video promotions. That's hardly off-topic when there is no newsgroup
devoted to Shogi. Bughouse Chess also attains a kind of Shogi/Go
character which, I imagine, was the intent behind such rules variants.
One does not ignore posts by calling attention to an ignorance of them.




- regards
- jb

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