Re: Olli Lounela's tournament report from IGS's early years (1993)

Harry Sigerson wrote:
Jeff,


Harry, are you prejudiced?


Not particularly at least I hope not.

You sure sound it to me. You seem obsessed with identifying any posts you don't like as coming from American posters. What's the point? Do you tally the non-offensive posts by nationality as well? Are you only focused on Americans, or other nationalities? Have you got some estimates yet? Are 80% of Americans bad people? What should you do about it? Treat any you meet badly? Provide aid to Al Qaeda?

Prejudiced? Now as one of the millions who have been raised on Hollywood movies and in my case from 6 to 12, the WWII passage, I'd have to say that most of my life I've been prejudiced in favour of the US. I'm quite a lot less so inclined now.

Ok, here's something you should know: Hollywood is not an accurate portrayal of American society. Back in the 50s, American television was squeaky clean, with Leave it to Beaver being the poster child American family. That was *not* reality.

Things like the Savings & Loans thievery; and others such, like the Enron thing seem to confirm this. Though maybe it's always been like that and the movies have it all wrong <s>.

Yes, corruption has existed in all societies throughout history. WWII? Here's what the US Secretary of Defense had to say: "LeMay said if we lost the war that we would have all been prosecuted as war criminals. And I think he's right."

This is from "The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara". Highly recommended: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/

How about other countries? Neutral Switzerland and Nazi loot? http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/aa072397.htm.

What do people in Northern Ireland think of the British?

Anyways, I'm not going to get into a debate over all the misdeeds of countries throughout history. The point is that your fixation on nationality sounds a lot like the racist point of view.

-Jeff
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