Re: 40,000 free downloadable pro games
- From: "Frank de Groot" <franciad@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 22:31:40 +0100
<GoChoU@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
Hello, anonymous one.
> If it's not for your childish rantings, I would really like to buy a
> copy of your software.
Then I would advise you to do invest some time into "Zen".
Or Sufi. Learn to control your negative emotions.
Really, life becomes better that way.
> You have a brilliant program, Frank, and I have
> to give you credit for it, but the "lifetime updates" and the 2000
> games a year are mostly other people's work.
The 2000 games a year are other people's work.
However, I have entered into a partnership, concerning those games.
Which means that I have commited myself to do a certain service back.
I do not understand why you say that the lifetime updates to the Go software
is "mostly other people's work".
If you are alluding to Neil McLean's support for popular file formats apart
from SGF, that is a one-off contribution of a third party.
Yes, many have contributed something. Some contributed sounds, others a
board skin etc.
All have been duly compensated and all will be accredited, if they haven't
already been.
For the rest it is purely my own work in those software updates.
> I have recorded games
> before, and had it sold by Breakfast 1p for money.
Damn.
I hope you're not accusing me of such a thing.
I do not charge any money for the game records freely downloadable on my
website.
> My direct reaction
> was, "he didn't even ask for permission!" The thing is, the go game
> collections belong to everyone in the go community, unless you played
> the game itself and refuse to release it or that's my personal opinion
> anyway. In this case, I side with you.
Good.
It's always nice to have a friend, even though he/she's anonymous.
> However, your arrogance disgust me. In my mind, you're not a go player.
Well.. I am not!
Last time I played Go was two years ago.
I am a Go Software developer.
And not really that "arrogant".
Some people have been on a high horse, moralizing and alleging things they
know nothing about, for the sole purpose of making me look bad.
They've tried to drive a wedge between myself and the patrons here by
saying: "He is not a Go player". "He is very arrogant and rude".
"He is unethical and perhaps even criminal". "He is mentally ill". "He even
admits he is unethical". "He is not humble but always attacks people when
they critiscise him".
> go for 20 years who I consider go players. You are not a go player
> because you have absolutely no respect for others,
Nonsense.
You don't know anything about me.
When I was younger, I smuggled two people from behind the iron curtain (the
were DDR citizens).
I could have been shot and in fact I did get arrested and an AK47 poked in
my back. It was in a forest, not particularly nice place to be when
violating a communist border.
Why did I help those guys? Because I respect personal freedom. They asked me
to go with them to walk ahead so I could give a signal that they could
follow.
If I would be arrested I could distract attention and they could flee. I
successfully got them over the border and I got arrested on my way back.
You are naive to judge people on a few words on a newsgroup.
> respect for the game, whatsoever. A go player will not act like an 8
> year old when he is 40. You are immature and unpredictable, and who
> knows if you will one day just say, "oh, screw you go people, I'm gonna
> go work on some other stuff" and ditch all your promises (lifetime
> update) because you want to "take revenge" on the go community?
These are your malicious allegations.
I sell Moyo Go for the price it is sold, the free lifetime updates are my
courtesy.
Moyo Go nowadays is worth its price without updates.
If I decide to kill myself of to do something else it's my business,
although I have promised to give "lifetime" updates.
And I meant my lifetime.
So I am committed to it.
This is also why I react so firmly to attacks. Because I *have* to continue
this and I will, with or without censorship by AGA and Sensei's Library and
who knows else.
> Everything seems to piss you off, and everything seems to give you the
> RIGHT to "retaliate" when no one is really out to get you?
If you are not out to get me, why do you say I am not a Go player, why do
you try to make people think I am untrustworthy, unreliable and might not
keep my promise of updates? Why do you say I have no respect for people and
why do you call me arrogant and childish? You don't know me. You can't judge
a person on a newsgroup dispute.
> How would we
> know if you are suddenly pissed at some of your customers, and give
> them an update full of virus?
These kind of allegations are exactly the kind that made me declare war at
GoGoD.
John Fairbairn alluded to the exact same thing because I called my first
program "ZenHacker".
You disgust me.
What you do is a desperate attempt, due to lack of arguments. to call me a
criminal even before I have done anything wrong.
You say that one day, I will destroy my own life project by giving peopel a
virus.
And you have the GUTS to call me childish?
You are a despicable, DISGUSTING person and I funderstand why you want to
hide your identity.
> Some people I would not even imagine
> that, but with you, I think it's totally possible.
Yes. And you are a typical dog-fucker. Spitting image.
> Forget about the 177 dollars, Frank, I would not even buy your software
> for 56 dollars, because that will soil my existence as a go player. I
> can't speak for the entire community, and most people want to improve,
> and Moyo Go can help, but I will never forgive myself if I realize that
> this is the kind of person you are, and I still buy a copy from you.
I have put the price back to 59 USD.
This is because I decided to put the SGF collection online.
My website says 177 USD but in fact the actual Kagi order page accepts the
old price of 59 USD.
Now piss off, creep.
.
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