Re: Games won by half a point



In message <qkufj1hgl548nqas8asovg7tjdu7v6m8vr@xxxxxxx>, Robert Jasiek <jasiek@xxxxxxxx> writes
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:54:36 +0100, T Mark Hall
<tmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have refined the search to games played in the Kisei (1977-2003),
Meijin (1978-2002) and Honinbo (1975-2002) tournaments where the komi
was 5.5 throughout. This produces a list of 3004 games, Kisei 867,
Meijin 1123 and Honinbo 1014 and I get 222 half point results:

Thanks for these entertaining figures!

Kisei
Black 27
White 44

Meijin
Black 37
White 39

Honinbo
Black 33
White 42

This gives White a 56.3% advantage.

My interpretation would be (to exaggerate a little): As long as it depends mostly on the name of the title, there are not enough data for them to be significant.

I am selecting the tournaments where we have most data. Now I have looked at the Judan (1962-2002), Tengen (1976-2002) and Gosei (1975-2002) and I get the following figures:

Judan, 1094 games
B 30
W 58

Tengen, 715 games
B 31
W 42

Gosei, 892 games
B 21
W 21

White's advantage 59.6%.

If I add the earlier figures, for a total 5705 games, White has a 57.88% advantage in games where the difference was only half a point.

Best wishes.
--
T Mark Hall
www.gogod.demon.co.uk
www.gogod.demon.co.uk/NewInGo/NewInGo.htm
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Games won by half a point
    ... Meijin and Honinbo tournaments where the komi was 5.5 throughout. ... This produces a list of 3004 games, Kisei 867, Meijin 1123 and Honinbo 1014 and I get 222 half point results: ...
    (rec.games.go)
  • [COMM] ANNOUNCEMENT
    ... encyclopaedia, a database of games, and a suite of programs. ... title matches>> features on famous players: Honinbo Dosaku, ... Group, Sosohoe, Rihwa, Seoul Baduk Research Institute, Xingze Go School, Shanghai Go Society, Zhongguo Qiyuan, Zhongguo Weiqi Qishe, and many more>> features on history: go in wartime Japan, history of go publishing, Castle Games, Meijin tournament history, Honinbo tournament history, history of newspaper go, the story of the Oteai, go in ancient China, go in old Okinawa, history of komi, history of josekis, Japan's oldest games, origins of grades, go in Tibet, sunjang go, origins of go in Europe, go in North Korea, and more, including extensive timelines>> translations from the go classics: Yi Zhi, Qi Jue, Peach-blossom Spring ...
    (rec.games.go)
  • Re: Games won by half a point
    ... would include some games at 4.5 komi, some at 5.5 and some at 6.5. ... From those games I get a total of 1634 games where the margin of victory was only half a point either way. ... Meijin and Honinbo tournaments where the komi was 5.5 throughout. ... This produces a list of 3004 games, Kisei 867, ...
    (rec.games.go)
  • Re: A game record_ 1680 years ago
    ... >Getting back to the 1000+ old games, I still am not so impressed and I ... Expectant official is similar to guoshou (champion or Meijin).] ... Prev by Date: ...
    (rec.games.go)