Re: We didn't start the fire? was Re: Alignment and 4E


"David Klassen" <klassen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jun 18, 6:00 pm, "Malachias Invictus" <invictuse...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

*All* religious indoctrination is false indoctrination. Indoctrination
does
not allow for questioning and critical examination.

Then, by this definition, not all religions indoctrinate.

That is true, but rare in my experience.

Some of us don't mind questioning and examination.

Sure, and that is a damned good thing. However, I do not see very many
religions that encourage the base assumptions of their faith (e.g., the
existence of God). I see *individuals* doing so, and that fills me with
some hope.

Most Sunday school classes are glorified daycare facilities, with a
indoctrination on the side, in my experience.

By "Sunday school" I'm going to assume you mean grade
school level---at least in my Church, that's what it means.

Yes, younger kid stuff is mainly what I was referring to.

For middle/high school we have Youth Group (combo of
some kind of fun activity, music practice and Bible study;
I lead the last)

Yes. I have participated in such. By the time kids are that age, they have
developed at least a modicum of critical thinking faculties. Youth groups
are fine in my book, provided they are not forced.

and for adults we have Adult Forum. I have
to admit that I was impressed with that name in itself and
even more so when I saw how much real discussion can
happen there.

That is good stuff. I have participated in a bit of it.

--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.

from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley


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