Re: We didn't start the fire? was Re: Alignment and 4E


"Allen Wessels" <awessels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <dpudnagVGJ5oncrVnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Malachias Invictus" <invictusebay@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If you can artificially create a "spiritual experience" with chemicals,
electrical stimulation, meditation, or other natural means, it shows that
the supernatural is not required in order to explain such experiences.

Unless you can create the same subjective experience in the subject by
the two different means, you don't have sufficient scientific evidence
to assert that the two are the same.

Of course not. I am talking about exploring and evaluating such
experiences, to find out more about them. Without such, we cannot really
say anything definitive about their nature.

There are a host of things that can create the state "dizzy". They
don't all directly tap the same underlying mechanism and there can be
differing qualities of dizzy.

Sure.

While science probably could do some telling inquiry into this area, we
typically don't allow it to. :-)

That is a problem I would like to see remedied. Along those lines, I feel
religion has in many ways stifled this sort of exploration.

--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.

from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley


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